This is my opinion maybe your Brain is tired getting the carp kicked out of it because macho man has to shoot the biggest high powered load. Look at it like this if every time you came home your wife hit you in the head with a bat how long before you would duck every time you came home just my 2 cants.Isee older guys moving up to a larger load because there scores are dropping let's face it we get old things chang.
WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR STARTINGTO FLINCH WHEN TRAP SHOOTING
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I don't know about anyone else, but when I started I just couldn't pull the trigger. I would ride a target to the ground and break out in a sweat trying to pull the trigger. It was a very bad feeling. I wouldn't wish it on anybody and hope nobody ever has to experience it.
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This one problem I don't have!
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Yeah, Pipe Layer, I would get something similar to that shooting pistol. If I had to delay my trigger press for some reason, sometimes the "recoil mitigation and recovery" sub-program would kick in before the shot, and in the absence of recoil to mitigate and recover from, would show itself as a flinch. I have found the modern isosceles variants less prone to this than say Weaver, because they are more passive with respect to recoil control.
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Never knew why I flinched, all I know it became that bad all my Buds used to take a step back each time I mounted my gun to shoot.
I could see them in my peripheral vision take the step back all 4 of them and then proceed to wet them selves laughing, I would flinch 8-10 times every 25.
It was funny to us all at first including me but after a short while it became a costly venture to find a cure for me.
I tried everything but a Release Trigger for approximately 2-3 years, new guns, new stocks, softer shells, different holds on the Trap, you name it I tried it all except a Release.
I was shooting the 1999 Grand and finally gave in and had Phil Crenwelge install a Release-Pull, he tried to convince me to go Double Release straight off the Bat.
I believed it was going to be hard enough to get my head around a Release-Pull let alone a Double, fast forward to 2010 Iowa State and you guessed it flinch started on my second in Doubles.
Luckily Phil was on hand and a Double was installed, took to it like a Duck to water and have not had a flinch since then.
I know a Release is not for everyone, I never tried to analyze the problem other than I knew I had a bad flinch and did not know what caused it, didn't care just wanted it gone.
It often amazes me what the human brain can be trained to do without much effort, we often over think things and convince ourselves "It's just to hard"
Believe me if you need to change a little effort will have your brain working just the way you want it too.
If you stopped me now just before I call my target and asked have you set your Trigger, I would have to look and see as it's a total subconscious action for me.
Regards from Down Under.
Release Trigger.
PS. Due to Covid19 all Gun Clubs here in Aussie have been closed down until further notice, stay safe all, and have a wonderful summer.
I could see them in my peripheral vision take the step back all 4 of them and then proceed to wet them selves laughing, I would flinch 8-10 times every 25.
It was funny to us all at first including me but after a short while it became a costly venture to find a cure for me.
I tried everything but a Release Trigger for approximately 2-3 years, new guns, new stocks, softer shells, different holds on the Trap, you name it I tried it all except a Release.
I was shooting the 1999 Grand and finally gave in and had Phil Crenwelge install a Release-Pull, he tried to convince me to go Double Release straight off the Bat.
I believed it was going to be hard enough to get my head around a Release-Pull let alone a Double, fast forward to 2010 Iowa State and you guessed it flinch started on my second in Doubles.
Luckily Phil was on hand and a Double was installed, took to it like a Duck to water and have not had a flinch since then.
I know a Release is not for everyone, I never tried to analyze the problem other than I knew I had a bad flinch and did not know what caused it, didn't care just wanted it gone.
It often amazes me what the human brain can be trained to do without much effort, we often over think things and convince ourselves "It's just to hard"
Believe me if you need to change a little effort will have your brain working just the way you want it too.
If you stopped me now just before I call my target and asked have you set your Trigger, I would have to look and see as it's a total subconscious action for me.
Regards from Down Under.
Release Trigger.
PS. Due to Covid19 all Gun Clubs here in Aussie have been closed down until further notice, stay safe all, and have a wonderful summer.
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I shot a pull trigger for 10 years before I developed a flinch.. It was not
caused by the effects of recoil. I believe it was indecision. Everything
had to be perfect before I let the shot go. A release trigger solved my
problems. I still flinch, but rarely.
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I never knew what a flinch was until about three years ago (age 72). I am a right hand shooter and as I mentioned earlier I hold a high gun. Almost all of my flinches are from post 1 left angles. Holding off of the left corner and a lower hold point does help if I remember to do it. By-the-way, I don't laugh anymore when I see some one else flinch.
Steve
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I was shooting a tm1 when my flinch started. Had a friend that had a release in his tm1 . I stuck it In my gun . Went to the practice trap and missed the first target out and ran 99 straight . Never turned back and would not if I could .
I can take my bird gun throw it up and pull the trigger all day .
Beats me !
I can take my bird gun throw it up and pull the trigger all day .
Beats me !
I can't speak for others, but I do flinch occasionally, and it is ALWAYS when I don't have hard target focus.
As I've gotten older, my vision seems to be better on some days than others, especially under certain light conditions.
Some days I don't ever flinch. Some days I do. In fact, I may shoot for weeks at a time and not flinch.
Then, our of the blue, I'll have a day when I have a flinch or two.
Weird.
Good Luck and Good Shooting!
As I've gotten older, my vision seems to be better on some days than others, especially under certain light conditions.
Some days I don't ever flinch. Some days I do. In fact, I may shoot for weeks at a time and not flinch.
Then, our of the blue, I'll have a day when I have a flinch or two.
Weird.
Good Luck and Good Shooting!
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I know exactly what you are talking about.
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I shoot a Precision Fit Stock. Shooting Win Super Hcp, the rebound was hurting my trigger finger. I did not grip the stock firmly enough. The PFS mitigated the original recoil, but the gun spring back, the trigger would hit my trigger finger.
I went to wearing a glove and gripping the stock tighter. Also went to lighter loads for Hcp. Gripping the stock tighter is the key for me. Still a work in progress, I may forget to really grip the stock and be ok for few shots. By the way, my flinch is I can pull the trigger, but shake the gun prior pulling the trigger. Still break the target once in a while, usually loss.
Jason
I went to wearing a glove and gripping the stock tighter. Also went to lighter loads for Hcp. Gripping the stock tighter is the key for me. Still a work in progress, I may forget to really grip the stock and be ok for few shots. By the way, my flinch is I can pull the trigger, but shake the gun prior pulling the trigger. Still break the target once in a while, usually loss.
Jason
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Very very few. When you almost fall over forward from trying to pull the trigger, you ain’t hit’n shit.
It’s a joke to some people. Trust me, it’s no joke if it’s you.
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It took me quite a while to find out the why in my flinching. My flinch is that as I go to pull the trigger I straighten my finger rather than bend it. This means I cannot pull the trigger and I look like I am doing a line dance. I am not sure why this happens but it could be that I am holding the stock too tightly with my right hand or it could be the arthritis in my finger. Does not matter. I tried a release for a while but my brain felt unsafe and overwhelmed. I was ready to quit. Now if I flinch, I put the gun down and relax, say to myself I am ok, take a deep breath, and go again. I consider myself lucky that I found the cause.
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