This is my opinion maybe your Brain is tired getting the carp kicked out of it because macho man has to shoot the biggest high powered load. Look at it like this if every time you came home your wife hit you in the head with a bat how long before you would duck every time you came home just my 2 cants.Isee older guys moving up to a larger load because there scores are dropping let's face it we get old things chang.
WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR STARTINGTO FLINCH WHEN TRAP SHOOTING
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I wasn't covering the target. I had the same sight picture, had a smooth swing to the target, saw the target good and didn't jump at it or make any bad moves to the target. My small brain just could not make my finger pull the trigger. It was not caused by vision , different hold points, low or high targets. I truly believe my problem was in my head. The release didn't cure my problem if it had I would be shooting a pull. The release not only helped me stay in the game it elevated my shooting. If I would have known what I do now I would have never shot a pull trigger at a clay target. If you don't fight the release it is much better than a pull, in my opinion. Here is something to think about, some people can't shoot a release but can a pull, how is that any different from not being able to shoot a pull. Mental game either way.
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Sports psychologists think "yips" is all psychologic. This guy calls it "misplaced focus"
The Yips: Difficult to understand, difficult to cure
This guy says 70% psychological and 30% physical
The Yips: Athletes Who Can't Perform
Neurologists think it's a neurologic/physiologic disorder, and NOT psychological.
Likely a bit of both.
Certainly, after the first flinch, there is apprehension/anxiety about having another, which leads to loss of focus, which leads to more flinches.
The Yips: Difficult to understand, difficult to cure
This guy says 70% psychological and 30% physical
The Yips: Athletes Who Can't Perform
Neurologists think it's a neurologic/physiologic disorder, and NOT psychological.
Stanley Fahn M.D., professor of neurology at Columbia University, and the scientific director of the Parkinson’s Disease Foundation
“It’s beyond their control. It’s not psychogenic; it’s an organic disease of the brain. But we still don’t understand why… It’s some kind of a physiological-biochemical problem that we don’t understand.”
“It’s beyond their control. It’s not psychogenic; it’s an organic disease of the brain. But we still don’t understand why… It’s some kind of a physiological-biochemical problem that we don’t understand.”
Likely a bit of both.
Certainly, after the first flinch, there is apprehension/anxiety about having another, which leads to loss of focus, which leads to more flinches.
What the poster described was more of a balk, not a flinch. He never got the shot off. Flinching is a quick involuntary motion, such as when surprised or hurt. Balking is hesitating or stopping an action.
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One more time lt
You resolved your flinch how exactly?
You resolved your flinch how exactly?
Perazzi MX10RS 32/34 Combo w/Allor tuned barrels, MX8 Lusso O/U
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Congrats, you earned ignored status with that bullshit, and I didn't balk.
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He says a release trigger is useless. That diminishes his credibility in my eyes. Do golfers get the yips because of gun fit?
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When I flinch I am clearly seeing the target.If "The cause of a flinch is almost always the result of an interruption of the visual connection between the dominant eye and the target", how is that visual interruption resolved with a release trigger?
BTW: I can flinch when my left eye takes over, despite being blocked with an occlusive (kinda hard to see the target when "looking" at a black dot), but almost never is my flinch from covering the clay. I am guaranteed to flinch with a very hard and mushy trigger pull. How does that work exactly?
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Release triggers are not the single cure all for all shooters. For some people, they work for others they are indeed useless. I have tried using one on numerous occasions for different guns. My mind says it is not natural. I have release hooks and parts for an Ithaca 4E, a K80 TS sitting in my junk drawer, I have a release trigger taking up space in my Ljutic‘s case. I had a BT100 with a release hook I removed then put back in when I sold the gun.
Try introducing a release trigger for a person who was or is in law enforcement they will think you are nuts.
BTW, golf is the stupidest game ever invented by men who wear skirts. Women were forbidden to play it. Anybody who makes comparisons to golf and shooting firearms has zero credibility.
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1. Flinching in trap shooting has been compared by medical experts to flinching in other sports, as there obviously is a relation of causes.
2. If golf is such a stupid game why is it so popular worldwide?
3. Do some research. The overwhelming majority - yes, not all - of shooters who have flinches are "cured" by using a release trigger.
4. Why do so many top shooters, including Phil Kiner and Kay Ohye use release triggers? After all, I am sure their guns fit them perfectly.
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Man you are as dense as a box of rocks, once again you attempt to hijack a thread with your weird thought process. I will repeat for you…….
A release is not, I repeat, not a cure all for all shooters. People are not from the same cookie cutter. The way you carry on, you would think every shooter on every squad has or should have a release. It simply is not so. Your one size fits all attitude to the trap shooting game makes you look ridiculous.
The only reason I can think of that golf might be popular world wide, is because their are a lot of stupid people worldwide. I can tell you in the retirement villages in Az, the courses are in trouble. Generations after boomers who are retiring are not playing golf in these villages.
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