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I must be the one-off, because I am 100% convinced that the flinching I was dealing with was due to visual issues. In my case my left eye was taking over just as I approached the bird (I'm a right handed shooter). For a millisecond I would see the entire left side of the barrel and flinch, especially on left hand targets. EVERYONE I know that shoots a release told me to shoot a release. I tried one, hated it and dropped out of the game for a few years. Fast forward to this year, shooting one eye (and a pull trigger), I've changed my setup routine, changed my hold points and changed where I look before I call for the target. None of what I am doing is traditional for one-eye shooters, but it is working for me and getting me back in the game. My flinching is for the most part gone (knock on wood) and my scores are improving.
Sounds like you’ve put in the work.
 
Jeff. Please read
"Sports Related Dystonia", 2021
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/11...fb6092fe6d8751ab.pdf?_ga=2.44963300.1790561666.1650285789-1692820118.1650285789

and explain why some focal dystonia are an inability to contract (shooter's trigger freeze), and many an inability to release (throwing flinch, "dartitis"), and some are a discoordination of flexion and contraction (golfer's "yips"), and why movement disorder neurologists and exercise physiologists and sports psychologists still don't know why we "flinch".

BTW Stan Utley cured Charley Barkley's swing "yips" somehow
Master Faculty Member Utley Helping Barkley With Swing - SwingU Clubhouse
 
Anyone who claims trigger freeze in trapshooting is a visual problem has the unenviable task of explaining how a release trigger eliminates the "visual" problem. So far, no one has done that. But, go ahead, you may as well take a shot at it if you want.
I have no idea how to correct the problem. And I’m not going to criticize Jerry as I have no knowledge of his educational background. I know this, if I know nothing about someone, I won’t comment on their abilities. He may be right, who knows? And as Forrest Gump said, that’s all I know about that.
 
I have no idea how to correct the problem. And I’m not going to criticize Jerry as I have no knowledge of his educational background. I know this, if I know nothing about someone, I won’t comment on their abilities. He may be right, who knows? And as Forrest Gump said, that’s all I know about that.
50 years of competition shooting, a great number of world records, 30+ years on a pro-staff, decades of training articles and training videos for handgun/rifle/shotguns, if you've subscribed to Guns and Ammo or the American Rifleman or another 20 gun magazines over the last couple decades, you've seen his name/photos/articles dozens if not hundreds of times. This thread reminds me a little bit of those Jeopardy clips where Alex asks contestants basic sports questions about Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, Babe Ruth, or how many points do you get if you make a 3-point shot in basketball and all three of them stare blankly into space wishing it was all over.
 
I have no real knowledge about jerry except that hes an exceptional shooter, I watched him in person many years ago in an exhibition shoot, I've never been as impressed by anyone else's. I'm mediocre and know it, I'll entertain his thoughts though, you bet.
 
I know this, if I know nothing about someone, I won’t comment on their abilities.
My only comment on Jerry was:

"I don't know who this guy is but he is full of crap if he thinks trigger freeze in clay target sports is a vision problem. "

Now, where did I comment on his abilities? Where? I said I didn't know who he is and I still don't care because to me, who he is, or who anyone else is for that matter, if they think trigger freeze in trap shooting is a vision problem, they are full of crap. Vision problems may be able to be addressed by corrective lenses, surgeries and eye exercises. They can't be corrected by changing a mechanism that you use to fire a gun.

Now, I have said my piece on this and those who want to think trigger freeze is a vision issue can just live in that world to which they have become accustomed. Those of you who, like me, can't figure out how a release trigger helps me see the target better, will just have to rely on the fact that trigger freeze is usually eliminated for those who use a release....as if by magic. ;)
 
I also don't give a crap that he is a good shooter even if he is Annie Oakley reincarnated. That does not make him a nuero-specialist. Vision has nothing to do with trigger freeze.

Now, as soon as someone can explain how release triggers magically solve a vision processing problem, I'll listen. Until then, it's just people's butts talkin'.
Kind of funny how a trigger you release cures a flinch, too, though, isn’t it?

I do believe some flinches are related to vision, but not all. Some folks start flinching with a release or can’t set the trigger after shooting a release for years. I don’t think anyone knows all the answers about flinches, and not everyone flinches for the same reason. If you get afflicted with it, you just need to figure out how to get around it for you.
 
I have a flinch…. About once in every 50 targets. I don’t dwell on it, I’ve never considered a release trigger. I started shooting doubles and it has helped with my 16 yard singles flinch. For me it’s a focus issue. while shooting doubles I try to break the first target a lot quicker than I do when shooting singles. I know…. You always know where the first target is going! But I’ve found this to be good therapy for my flinch. I refuse to make an issue of my flinch, I don’t discuss it at the club while I’m there to shoot and have fun. I’ve seen others make a real big deal out of it and it can become very off putting to others at the club.
Jerry Miculek is a shooting god! If he ever picked up a trap gun and decided to be a trap shooter, every member on this site would soon know him. I believe he offered sound advice concerning “flinching”.
I used to shoot competitive archery and blank bail ( no target ) shooting is a training must.
Just my 2 cents….
 
It’s kind of funny listening to some folks say, “just because he’s a good shooter doesn’t mean he knows ____.”

Granted, that’s true for probably the average top shooter at a local club, he/she practiced and got good at the game, but just know what works for them. The people that are basically legends in the game (and Jerry would certainly qualify for that title), need to do a bit more, for the most part. They certainly practiced a lot, but they went further than that- students of the game, if you will. I think the best way to do this is to coach people, it takes you out of what worked for you and then makes you think how someone else can make it work or fix what they are doing wrong.

There’s a lot of science in what was talked about above, and understanding that is great- it helps come up with solutions (sometimes, anyway). But- if you’re having a problem with shooting- go to an expert in shooting to help you get to where you want/need to be. Not someone that has researched the “yips” with golfers or pitchers. That’s my opinion, anyway- take it for what it’s worth.
 
I have a flinch…. About once in every 50 targets. I don’t dwell on it, I’ve never considered a release trigger. I started shooting doubles and it has helped with my 16 yard singles flinch. For me it’s a focus issue. while shooting doubles I try to break the first target a lot quicker than I do when shooting singles. I know…. You always know where the first target is going! But I’ve found this to be good therapy for my flinch. I refuse to make an issue of my flinch, I don’t discuss it at the club while I’m there to shoot and have fun. I’ve seen others make a real big deal out of it and it can become very off putting to others at the club.
Jerry Miculek is a shooting god! If he ever picked up a trap gun and decided to be a trap shooter, every member on this site would soon know him. I believe he offered sound advice concerning “flinching”.
I used to shoot competitive archery and blank bail ( no target ) shooting is a training must.
Just my 2 cents….
I have a flinch like you also. So far I haven’t let it bother me. I used to shoot tournament archery and developed target panic. It was a booger to correct. Strangely enough, I’m naturally left handed. I had to switch to right handed to be able to control it. I still had to constantly work on it to keep it from coming back. I didn’t understand it then and I don’t now. I will say this, if I shot at a blank bale, I had no problem holding and releasing. It has to be a visual thing. Now how it works in trap I have no idea.
 
50 years of competition shooting, a great number of world records, 30+ years on a pro-staff, decades of training articles and training videos for handgun/rifle/shotguns, if you've subscribed to Guns and Ammo or the American Rifleman or another 20 gun magazines over the last couple decades, you've seen his name/photos/articles dozens if not hundreds of times. This thread reminds me a little bit of those Jeopardy clips where Alex asks contestants basic sports questions about Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, Babe Ruth, or how many points do you get if you make a 3-point shot in basketball and all three of them stare blankly into space wishing it was all over.
Direct this post to JBrooks. I’m a fan of Jerry, and yes Ive read his articles and watched his shooting. The man is amazing. If he speaks, I listen.
 
My only comment on Jerry was:

"I don't know who this guy is but he is full of crap if he thinks trigger freeze in clay target sports is a vision problem. "

Now, where did I comment on his abilities? Where? I said I didn't know who he is and I still don't care because to me, who he is, or who anyone else is for that matter, if they think trigger freeze in trap shooting is a vision problem, they are full of crap. Vision problems may be able to be addressed by corrective lenses, surgeries and eye exercises. They can't be corrected by changing a mechanism that you use to fire a gun.

Now, I have said my piece on this and those who want to think trigger freeze is a vision issue can just live in that world to which they have become accustomed. Those of you who, like me, can't figure out how a release trigger helps me see the target better, will just have to rely on the fact that trigger freeze is usually eliminated for those who use a release....as if by magic. ;)
I can help you with the connection between why a flinch starts and the vision system (no magic needed ;) ).
Vision is one of the ways we sense the world around us. Hearing and touch being the other two that are very active in shooting.
We need information into one of our sensors before the brain can act on it and flinch. Otherwise you might end up with the never ending flinches...which could make going to the bathroom and sleeping tough, haha.

I had some thoughts typed but the robot put them together better, and with more insights, so I'll copy it here for everyone to enjoy.


1. Visual Processing and Anticipation
In trap and skeet, flinching often happens before you pull the trigger. This is usually because:
  • Your eyes see the target leave the trap house → brain knows recoil/noise is coming → subconscious muscles “brace” too early.
  • If your visual focus isn’t locked on the target itself (instead on the barrel, bead, or house), your brain may get confused and trigger a protective reflex.
This is why instructors emphasize: eyes on the bird, not the bead.

2. Eye Dominance and Misalignment
If your dominant eye is misaligned with your gun mount:
  • Your visual system sends conflicting information (target vs. barrel location).
  • This conflict can cause hesitation → hesitation often becomes a flinch.
For example, a right-handed shooter with weak or shifting right-eye dominance may “see” the barrel jump in relation to the target and unconsciously interrupt the trigger pull.

3. Over-Focusing and “Visual Freezing”
Many shooters flinch because they over-focus:
  • Staring too hard at the house, expecting the bird.
  • Tracking the barrel instead of trusting peripheral vision.
  • Mentally “waiting” for the target to appear → that moment of delay creates a trigger freeze or flinch.
The cure is soft focus: relax your eyes in a broad zone over the trap house, let the target “pop” into focus, then drive to it smoothly.

4. Noise, Recoil, and the Visual Trigger
Even if recoil pads and hearing protection reduce the physical impact, the visual cue of the target itself becomes the brain’s signal to expect a “bang.”
  • Your eyes say “here it comes” → nervous system fires protective response.
  • This explains why dry-firing (no recoil/noise) often shows no flinch — but live fire does.
5. Vision Training to Reduce Flinch
Shotgun coaches use vision techniques to calm the subconscious trigger:
  • Soft focus zones: keep eyes above the house, unfocused, so the bird “jumps out.”
  • Peripheral vision reliance: trust your eyes to pick up movement without over-aiming.
  • Visualization: rehearsing smooth target breaks in the mind’s eye reduces subconscious fear of the shot.
  • One-eye training (sometimes): for cross-dominance shooters, occlusion dots or tape help eliminate conflicting visual inputs that trigger hesitation.

Some interesting points in there. I like the general idea of it. Hopefully that was helpful without the need for your magic.
 
I had some thoughts typed but the robot put them together better, and with more insights, so I'll copy it here for everyone to enjoy.
LMAO. That is funny stuff. You do know that all the "robot" is doing is parroting whatever nonsense it has found online? And, a lot of that is pure nonsense as it is totally inapplicable to trigger freeze compared to a conditioned reflex to recoil that ONLY happens after the shot has left the barrel. Ask the "robot" how a release trigger solves a vision problem.
 
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