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1 0z vs 1 1/8th oz. shot for trap.

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#1 ·
Can any one tell me if there is a difference in patterning between 1 0z. vs 1 1/8th oz shot ? I shot 2 rounds of trap today with 1 0z. loads and did not notice any substantial difference in the target break at 16 yards.
 
#2 ·
1.125oz has more pellets than the 1oz. So with the same choke you'll get a denser pattern from the 1.125oz. Through your full choke you probably won't notice a difference in your score at the 16 yard line so it's really not worth thinking about.
At long yardage handicap 1oz of pellets is going to put you at a disadvantage. 1.125oz patterns back there are already at their limit (or a hair passed).
 
#3 · (Edited)
I've been experimenting with 7/8 oz loads instead of the 1 oz loads I usually use for practice. I don't notice much - if any - difference in breaks from the 16 yard line. If you have the gun pointed at the right place when you pull the trigger, the target will break. I'll still shoot 1 1/8 oz loads for trap league, but if I can practice effectively with a lighter recoil, less costly to reload round, it's all good. The pattern will be a little denser with more shot, but the size of the pattern should be the same.

I don't notice much difference in recoil between 1 1/8, 1 oz and 7/8.
 
#9 ·
The way I look at that is 1 1/8 oz of #8 is 461 pellets..

This topic always goes the same way, and it’s the same every time, ......someone wants to know the difference in pattern and effectiveness between 1 1/8 oz and 1 oz. “Not much”, they say. Then someone says they use 7/8 oz and don’t notice much difference between that and 1 oz. With that logic, you’ll eventually end up shooting 12 pellets.

To @Colorado 2018, if you don’t see much difference between 1 1/8 and 1 oz., then use 1 1/8 and it’ll pay off in targets even if you don’t always realize it.

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#18 ·
I don't know about trap, but I recently shot a sporting clays tournament using 1oz instead 9/8oz for the first time and did significantly better than usual. I've never thought of myself as recoil sensitive, but I noticed I felt a lot less fatigued at the end of the day after about 125 rounds. I might try it out on trap and see how it goes.
 
#21 ·
One of friends told me he , his wife and daughter shot 1 oz. loads for a year (the ladies were both All Americans). They dropped their average by 1 target. In my opinion, that's a lot for an AA.
 
#25 ·
Pbansen makes valid points. But practicing with less recoil could possibly have an Ill effect also. Not use to the recoil added to the confusion of a bigger shoot, Phil Kiners word not mine "pressure". I like to practice like I'm competing. 200 rounds with 1 ounce loads for practice i bet in a league, big shoot, even games, by the 100 mark people start getting tired because they haven't conditioned themselves to that load. Once your mind goes in a shoot it's hard to recover after your body is wore down too. I will practice with what I shoot at any sort of shoot. Train and practice the whole body not just a portion!
 
#26 ·
I've patterned 1 oz loads using modified, improved modified, and full chokes and compared the patterns to 1.12 loads using the same gun and chokes at 30, 35, and 40 yards. I like the looks of patterns using the 1.12 oz loads. The patterns appear more dense and have fewer holes. Therefore, I use 1.12 oz loads for all competition events. While shooting casual trap, using 1 oz loads may be ok for many. However, while shooting trap competitions, I prefer all the shot in my loads that are allowed. Confidence in your gun, choke, and loads make a difference when shooting trap competitions.
 
#31 ·
FITASC is considered a harder game at big SCs shoots. A couple of years ago they went from 1 1/4oz to 1oz of shot. Everyone was up in arms believing the scores were gonna plummet. They actually went up - because there wasn't the big toll from recoil. Guess patterns different suffer too much. International skeet and trap both have a 7/8oz [ 24gram ] limit . I'd be willing to bet 16yd scores wouldn't change a bit. Good shooters are breaking birds with the center 20" of the pattern, not the fringe. There's plenty of BBs in that 20" pattern with 1oz of shot.
 
#33 ·
It is NOT a proven fact that scores went up because of the lessening of felt recoil, that is a very misleading statement. In fact most of the instructors in English Fitasc are of the opinion that scores went up because there was more attention paid to proper pointing of the target knowing they had to use a smaller payload. Another advantage was there was less muzzle jump which made acquiring the 2nd target of a true pair slightly easier. Felt Recoil was not the reason for the mandatory reduction.
 
#32 ·
I have been shooting 1oz for a while, thought I would give 7/8 a try, I notice no difference in the breaks, when I am on they break, when I miss they don’t. Also I don’t flinch. I don’t shoot registered so I am not loosing anything if I don’t break them all but I sure enjoy it more. I also shoot #8 so I have the same number of pellets in a 1 oz load as 1-1/8 have in 7-1/2. If I shoot handicaps I use #7-1/2 and my breaks are just as good as the guys using 1-1/8. Just my 2 cents worth.