I just got a PFS, the customer service I received was absolutely amazing! The fit and finish is fantastic. I think Stock lock would be my second choice If I had too even though never had one. I wouldn't own a prosoft again..

 

This is probably the best bang for the buck
And if he goes to them to get it he can get the gun fitted to him which makes a big difference, well worth the money in my opinion.

I had a used one that I put on a Perizza and they fitted it to me.

Sad thing is it just sets in my safe, I never shoot it any more

I have an HT5, a HT RS and a Model 12 all with stock locks

Just having a gun that fits makes all the difference in the World

 

Never underestimate the benefits gained from building up your shoulder muscles through exercise.

 

Does it have to be muscle, or would fat work? Asking for a friend.

 

Three factors that affect recoil. Amount of lead in the shell, speed of the shell, and the weight of the gun. Do you shoot competitively? Do you reload? Easiest fix is to shoot slower lighter shells. Recoil reducer devices spread out the recoil pulse, and are an expensive fix.

 

I do shoot competitively and I do reload. I’m currently shooting 9/8 oz loads with 15.8 grains of Highgun.

 

You should have a stock lock made

 

May be blasphemous to say this, but would it be worth taking a short break from shooting to give you shoulder time to heal? Maybe combined with some physical therapy?

 

International Bunker shooters use less than 7/8 oz of shoot, and break much more difficult targets than ATA trap. Might be worth a try, using less shot. You can drop to 1 ounce with High Gun, and Perfect Pattern is a good powder for 7/8. You need to use a tapered hull (like Remington) and a CB wad one size shorter, because of the dense powders. Most people that have tried less shot, don’t go back to using 9/8.

 

Three Stock Locks, one PFS and a 391

 

For anyone considering a prosoft take a good read of this thread,it could change your mind https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/custom-stock-questions.951702/

 

Chris, no doubt your scenario did Phil Simms irreparable damage to his reputation. When I saw your original post on Phil I couldn't believe my eyes and that he actually made that stock. I got my K80 stock from him around the same time you did and it was perfect, amazing and I can't say enough good things about his quality of work. What he did to your stock was unimaginable and worse, his initial response to your dissatisfaction blew me out of the water. Having spent some time with him in his shop, I can only guess he must have had some physical or mental issue at the time, or didn't have a CNC pattern for inletting your Remington, it just doesn't make sense. I would hope your case was a one-off issue because there are thousands of Pro-Soft owners out there with perfect stocks. It was a Twilight Zone thing - Go figure.

 

Agree. Lighter loads. Allows me to shoot 500 bird doubles marathons without any recoil reduction device on my Kolar.

 

That’s a sharp looking wood grip on your PFS 😍
@Chris Zautner

 

Soft touch style or pro soft. Any recoil reduction can only help. I've shot about all of the systems and I'm still using the two mentioned.

 

As far as the recoil reduction devices go I would try out as many of them as you can before you buy one. Everybody has a little different feel and one might suit you better that the other. I have a ProSoft and can't imagine shooting without it. Best of luck

 

Another vote for the PFS. In my opinion it's the biggest bang for your buck. The fact that you can swap it between guns, with minimal expense, and save your original wood was the biggest factor for me. I've been battling a shoulder impingement for the better part of a year and a half and the PFS has kept me from having to stop shooting. With some stretching and muscle building I feel that I may be going back to my original wood stock soon. But in the mean time I am really enjoying the PFS. 1oz @1180 is a dream to shoot with this set up!

 

Edwards Recoil Reducers been around for over 60 years that reason. They do work well. I have been using them over 20 years.

 

Kick-eez buttpads can knock down recoil quite a bit. If you want a physical device, Gracoil mechanisms from Graco can be added to any stock, or a new Stock Lock from Dawson Ent or ProSoft would really knock recoil down.

 

1) proper fit, especially lop.
2) lighter loads (7/8 oz at 1145 fps for 12 ga, 3/4 oz at 1145 fps for 20 ga).
3) recoil reduction device like those above or a recoil pad designed to mitigate felt recoil (I’ve heard good things about Falcon Strike).

My approach would be to go in the order above until I found the solution.

 

1) proper fit, especially lop.
2) lighter loads (7/8 oz at 1145 fps for 12 ga, 3/4 oz at 1145 fps for 20 ga).
3) recoil reduction device like those above or a recoil pad designed to mitigate felt recoil (I’ve heard good things about Falcon Strike).

My approach would be to go in the order above until I found the solution.

Absolutely. And I would second the advice on directed exercise as in physical therapy even

 

Chris Vendel makes an excellent recoil reduction unit. Similar to a softtouch.

 

I have one of Vendel’s systems. I like it better than soft touch.
It will absolutely resolve your recoil problems.

 

All good advice here, or may be try shooting automatic, very manageable recoil.

 

Agreed. Along with all of the other great advice above, I admit that our Beretta A400 Xcel Multi-target with Kick-Off built into the stock is a very soft shooter, even with 1-1/8 oz, 1200- 1350 fps loads.

 

After multiple rotator cuff surgeries and a bicep reattachment, I could not shoot for extended periods of time without the help of a Stock Lock recoil system. I like them so much, I own 3 of them.

 

Here is a Prosoft stock & forearm.
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/prosoft-stock-forearm-kolar-max-reduced.956765/

 

I had an ISIS on mine and it was fantastic.

 

Drop a 13/16" steel bar into the bolt hole. 12 ounces per 6".

 

Try the RAD 2A - I was very impressed with it

 

I have not used this. I met one person who did and they like it. I'm wondering if anybody here has used the Falcon Strike hydraulic recoil pad?

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Do a search for Falcon Strike on the forum. So many posts about it

 

I am in the jk80 camp. I have both ProSoft on my K80 Trap Special and SoftTouch on my CG Summit Trap guns. ProSoft and StockLock are similar in function but costly as the stocks are custom fited to you (which is the way it should be). Both are wood stocks, while the PFS, an excellent system, has that propholactic mechanical look. On the other hand a more economical and almost as good as ProSoft in terms of feel and doesn't require a bespoke stock, is SoftTouch out of Portland Oregon where the comb and butt pad are stationary and the stock moves under the comb. ProSoft and StockLock the receiver moves back into your stationary stock. SoftTouch is much less costly and will give you a much more perceived recoil feel with no pain, but if you want the best go with ProSoft bespoke stock from Phil Simms.