I Have been shooting Winchester model 12s and have no experiance with perrazzi brand, but I am Looking into investing in mx15 ,mt6 ,tmxl , or an mx8 2 barrel set with two triggers and two chokes. If anyone has any information on the prices of these guns please let me know.
JoeSpivey4
There is a really nice MT6 for sale on here now. 31.5 " type 4 unstriped, seems to be really priced good.
If I was still shooting Perazzi's I would buy it.
Buster
If I was still shooting Perazzi's I would buy it.
Buster
I have 2 perazzis and looking at getting a 3rd my 1st two are MX8 and MX8 special. Top single and double barrel 2 triggeres for each gun. 2 forearms for each gun
My new perazzi will be an unsingle and double barrel 1 trigger 1 forearm
Try and keep it simple
My new perazzi will be an unsingle and double barrel 1 trigger 1 forearm
Try and keep it simple
Those are some fairly different guns. What kind of shooting do you like to do?
MX8 - Pretty much the basic Barbie of Perazzi O/Us. There can be tons of configurations, including combos with unsingle barrels, top single barrels (no under barrel), and O/Us. Has a removable trigger that can have leaf or coil hammer springs (leaf are more common). The triggers are often non-selectable, meaning either the top barrel fires first or the bottom does, and you can't change the order. Some triggers are internally selectable (more expensive), meaning you can change the firing order, but you have to remove the trigger, move a switch, and put the trigger back in. Some triggers are externally selectable (most expensive), meaning you have a sliding button behind the trigger blade that can change the firing order. There have been a few changes over the years where you'll hear people say "Type 3" or "Type 4" or less frequently 1 or 2 and mostly relates to the barrel's forend lug and forend iron, which matters if you think you'll ever want to add an extra set of barrels or swap to different barrels. Type 4 is the latest and current version. Type 3 is an older version; the forend iron attaches to the wood differently (with screws) and some say is more prone to cracking. Type 1 and 2 are even older, rarer, and less desirable enough that I wouldn't consider them. Beyond the forend lug/iron, there were also differences in location of the lever lock release pin. The latest guns (almost all Type 4 guns) have this at the 9 o'clock position when looking at the breech face. Slightly older guns (some very early Type 4 guns and I think all Type 3 guns) have it at the 12 o'clock position (I think parts are a little harder to find). Even older guns (Type 1 and I think Type 2) have it at the 3 o'clock position (parts are harder to find). With a set of O/U barrels, it can be great for any clay target sport around.
The only knocks on them are:
1. People say the leaf springs in the triggers are more prone to break. I think this is waaaay overblown. Spare are about $30-50 each and can be replaced in under 2 minutes. I've gone over 5 years without breaking one.
2. Side ribs soldering can let go; I think repair is about $500 or so. I've heard this is something that tends to happen more with barrels that have been backbored, but it's happened to non-backbored barrels too. While relatively rare, I was worried enough about this that I've only bought Perazzis that didn't come with side ribs. (They can't shoot loose if you don't have them!
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MX15 - Best to think of it like a variant of the MX8, but the receiver lacks the more curvy sculpted seashell look of the MX8 for a more basic look (a cost-saving measure that only affects cosmetics). It traditionally comes with an adjustable rib unsingle barrel (no top barrel), but can have a set of over/under (O/U) barrels fitted to it. Probably great for trap singles and handicap, but unless you add a set of O/U barrels, that's all you can shoot.
TMXL - This is a single barrel trap (SBT) gun, a different design from the MX8, with a high rib and a removable trigger. The trigger could be leaf or coil spring. The "L" or "Lusso" means it's a pretty version with extra engraving (and maybe prettier wood...I can't remember). Again, great for trap singles and handicap, but you can't even add O/U barrels, so that's all you can shoot.
MT6 - This is an O/U, but different from the MX8 in a few ways. It's the predecessor of the MX12. It does not have a removable trigger. The trigger only comes with coil hammer springs. All of them have a safety/selector switch on the top receiver tang. All of them came with removable chokes. I've seen some sold as combos with an unsingle barrel. There were a few variations over the years. Personally, with the safety/selector switch allowing one to easily switch barrels, I like these for sporting clays, though you can shoot them in any clay target game.
Earliest - Blued receiver with horizontal stripes machined into the sides. Forend lug/iron was unique only to the MT6 (not Type 1-4)...nothing wrong with it (not prone to cracking, etc), just not common. The lever lock release pin was at 12 o'clock. Came with chokes that had threads close to the muzzle end usually called 1st Gen. (Though Briley calls them 2nd).
Newer - Case-colored receiver, no stripes. Type 4 forend lug/iron. Lever lock release pin was at 12 o'clock. Some came with 1st Gen chokes others came with chokes with threads toward the breech end usually called 2nd Gen. (Though Briley calls them 3rd).
Newest - Blued receiver, no stripes. Type 4 forend lug/iron. Lever lock release pin was at 9 o'clock. Came with 2nd Gen chokes. Mechanically, these are virtually identical to their MX12 successor.
MX8 - Pretty much the basic Barbie of Perazzi O/Us. There can be tons of configurations, including combos with unsingle barrels, top single barrels (no under barrel), and O/Us. Has a removable trigger that can have leaf or coil hammer springs (leaf are more common). The triggers are often non-selectable, meaning either the top barrel fires first or the bottom does, and you can't change the order. Some triggers are internally selectable (more expensive), meaning you can change the firing order, but you have to remove the trigger, move a switch, and put the trigger back in. Some triggers are externally selectable (most expensive), meaning you have a sliding button behind the trigger blade that can change the firing order. There have been a few changes over the years where you'll hear people say "Type 3" or "Type 4" or less frequently 1 or 2 and mostly relates to the barrel's forend lug and forend iron, which matters if you think you'll ever want to add an extra set of barrels or swap to different barrels. Type 4 is the latest and current version. Type 3 is an older version; the forend iron attaches to the wood differently (with screws) and some say is more prone to cracking. Type 1 and 2 are even older, rarer, and less desirable enough that I wouldn't consider them. Beyond the forend lug/iron, there were also differences in location of the lever lock release pin. The latest guns (almost all Type 4 guns) have this at the 9 o'clock position when looking at the breech face. Slightly older guns (some very early Type 4 guns and I think all Type 3 guns) have it at the 12 o'clock position (I think parts are a little harder to find). Even older guns (Type 1 and I think Type 2) have it at the 3 o'clock position (parts are harder to find). With a set of O/U barrels, it can be great for any clay target sport around.
The only knocks on them are:
1. People say the leaf springs in the triggers are more prone to break. I think this is waaaay overblown. Spare are about $30-50 each and can be replaced in under 2 minutes. I've gone over 5 years without breaking one.
2. Side ribs soldering can let go; I think repair is about $500 or so. I've heard this is something that tends to happen more with barrels that have been backbored, but it's happened to non-backbored barrels too. While relatively rare, I was worried enough about this that I've only bought Perazzis that didn't come with side ribs. (They can't shoot loose if you don't have them!
)MX15 - Best to think of it like a variant of the MX8, but the receiver lacks the more curvy sculpted seashell look of the MX8 for a more basic look (a cost-saving measure that only affects cosmetics). It traditionally comes with an adjustable rib unsingle barrel (no top barrel), but can have a set of over/under (O/U) barrels fitted to it. Probably great for trap singles and handicap, but unless you add a set of O/U barrels, that's all you can shoot.
TMXL - This is a single barrel trap (SBT) gun, a different design from the MX8, with a high rib and a removable trigger. The trigger could be leaf or coil spring. The "L" or "Lusso" means it's a pretty version with extra engraving (and maybe prettier wood...I can't remember). Again, great for trap singles and handicap, but you can't even add O/U barrels, so that's all you can shoot.
MT6 - This is an O/U, but different from the MX8 in a few ways. It's the predecessor of the MX12. It does not have a removable trigger. The trigger only comes with coil hammer springs. All of them have a safety/selector switch on the top receiver tang. All of them came with removable chokes. I've seen some sold as combos with an unsingle barrel. There were a few variations over the years. Personally, with the safety/selector switch allowing one to easily switch barrels, I like these for sporting clays, though you can shoot them in any clay target game.
Earliest - Blued receiver with horizontal stripes machined into the sides. Forend lug/iron was unique only to the MT6 (not Type 1-4)...nothing wrong with it (not prone to cracking, etc), just not common. The lever lock release pin was at 12 o'clock. Came with chokes that had threads close to the muzzle end usually called 1st Gen. (Though Briley calls them 2nd).
Newer - Case-colored receiver, no stripes. Type 4 forend lug/iron. Lever lock release pin was at 12 o'clock. Some came with 1st Gen chokes others came with chokes with threads toward the breech end usually called 2nd Gen. (Though Briley calls them 3rd).
Newest - Blued receiver, no stripes. Type 4 forend lug/iron. Lever lock release pin was at 9 o'clock. Came with 2nd Gen chokes. Mechanically, these are virtually identical to their MX12 successor.
Love my MX10. I think prices are variable depending on condition and grade. I'm sure you aren't surprised about that. I shopped around for mine for months.
If budget allows I highly recommend the MX2000RS combo, the best shotgun I ever owned, hell the best long gun I've ever owned and I've had pretty much everything. I was a hard head, didn't think a shotgun was anything but a pipe to deliver shot and would never shoot anything better than my beloved 1100. Went thru Diamond Grade Winchesters, Brownings, Berettas, but that MX2000 was like a magic wand, sadly life changes forced me to sell it to my everlasting regret.
Just a quick note you will get a lot of input on this but as soon as this turns into a buy sell trade thread and anyone attempts to circumvent forum classified rules this thread gets closed and those working around those rules including the OP will get banned perm.
Keep the Model 12. Use the Perazzi as a backup.
I started with a Model 12, won my class at a California State shoot in my first event. My buddy said it was time for a real shotgun; got a Blaser, then bought and sold several brands including Perazzi, Kreighoff, Butler, Bowen, etc.
Enjoyed them all in my hunt for the perfect shotgun, but I think if I had stayed with that Model 12 it would have been an extension of my right arm. Just something about the way it points and smokes birds.
JMHO
David
I started with a Model 12, won my class at a California State shoot in my first event. My buddy said it was time for a real shotgun; got a Blaser, then bought and sold several brands including Perazzi, Kreighoff, Butler, Bowen, etc.
Enjoyed them all in my hunt for the perfect shotgun, but I think if I had stayed with that Model 12 it would have been an extension of my right arm. Just something about the way it points and smokes birds.
JMHO
David
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