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#1 ·
As I’ve mentioned in past post I’ve got 20-30 new youth shooters ranging from 8-17. So far everyone is having fun progressing through our safety stages. We're at the stage where parents are asking questions about guns. Right now we have 5-6 club guns that we use during practice. As the kids decide they want to truly explore shooting sports, we encourage them to get their own gun. As then they can make sure they have proper gun fit and can also practice mounting etc when not at the range.

Here is a draft I'm putting together and would love to get some feedback. I'm also looking for brands that fall into each category. As many of these kids will be shooting trap, skeet and sporting, I'm wanting to point the parents towards a gun that can do all 3 versus a specialized gun like a BT-99.

Buying Your Youth’s First Shotgun: A Guide for Parents

What Should You Buy?

When it comes to purchasing a first shotgun for your youth, the right choice depends on their age, size, and experience level. Typically, for shooters aged 13 or older, it's a good idea to invest in a 12-gauge shotgun right away. However, for smaller-framed or younger shooters, starting with a 20-gauge can be a great option. The 20-gauge will serve as a stepping stone, but the goal should be to transition to a 12-gauge as soon as the shooter is ready. The best advice I was ever given was "Buy the best shotgun you can afford and you won't go wrong."

Shotgun Progression
As your child grows and gets more involved in the sport, expect them to go through a progression of 2 to 3 different guns. This is perfectly normal! The shotgun they start with at 9 years old will likely not be the same one they’re using at 17. Unlike other sports equipment, firearms tend to retain their value over time. You can often resell a well-maintained shotgun for close to what you paid, with only a minor difference in price (typically ±10%).

Types of Shotguns
I’ve broken down shotguns into four categories: Beginner, Starter, Committed, and Serious. Each stage reflects the shooter’s experience level, commitment to the sport, and expected usage.

1. Beginner Shotguns
  • Ideal Age Range: 8 to 10 years old
  • Purpose: To have fun, learn the basics, and build confidence.
  • Description: These guns are smaller and lightweight, specifically designed for young shooters who are just starting. They are typically basic, often hunting-based models, meant to fit the shooter more than anything else. The focus here is on comfort and safety, not long-term use.
  • Gauge: 20 Gauge. (28-gauge and .410 are not recommended due to the cost of ammo and the higher skill level required to hit targets.)
  • Price Range: $500 - $700
  • Note: This gun is a stepping stone. Your youth will outgrow it, but it’s a valuable introduction to shooting sports.
  • Example Guns:
    • Mossberg 500/505/510 Bantam
    • Remington 870 Youth Model
    • TriStar Viper G2 Youth
    • Yildiz Lineage Youth
2. Starter Shotguns
  • Ideal Experience: New Shooter
  • Purpose: To practice regularly and start participating in local competitions.
  • Description: These are reliable, dedicated sporting guns designed for skeet, trap, and sporting clays, not for hunting. A good starter gun will last for several years and can handle shooting once or twice a week, including a few competitions per year. For smaller shooters, a semi-automatic can reduce recoil and improve comfort, while more experienced shooters may opt for an over/under shotgun.
  • Gauge: 12 Gauge. (A 20-gauge is acceptable but may require upgrading as they progress.)
  • Price Range: $800 - $2,000
  • Example Guns:
    • Beretta A300/A400
    • CZ Redhead Premier
    • SKB RS300
    • Franchi Instinct/Affinity
3. Committed Shotguns
  • Ideal Experience: 2-3 years of shooting sports
  • Purpose: For serious youth shooters who are ready to compete frequently and shoot hundreds, if not thousands, of rounds per year.
  • Description: These shotguns are built for heavy use and high-level performance. They are durable, reliable, and most commonly found in the over/under configuration. These are the firearms for shooters who participate in regular competitions and spend a lot of time practicing.
  • Price Range: $1,800 - $3,000
  • Example Guns:
    • Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon
    • Browning 725 Sporting
    • Fabarm Elos
    • Browning Citori CX
4. Serious Shotguns
  • Ideal Experience: 5+ years of shooting sports
  • Purpose: For the dedicated competitor planning to continue shooting into adulthood.
  • Description: These are professional-level shotguns for individuals who shoot 10,000 rounds or more per year. They are built to last for years of high-intensity use and come with advanced features tailored for competition.
  • Price Range: Starting at $8,000 and can go much higher depending on customization and brand.
  • Example Guns:
    • Krieghoff K-80
    • Perazzi MX8
    • Blaser F3
    • Zoli Z-Sport
Conclusion
Choosing the right shotgun is an important decision for any young shooter. It’s essential to consider your child’s size, strength, and commitment to the sport when selecting a firearm. While the progression from beginner to serious shotgun can seem daunting, each step is designed to ensure they have the right equipment for their current needs.

Remember, firearms tend to hold their value well, so consider each purchase as part of your shooter’s journey rather than a permanent decision. By investing wisely, you can ensure that they enjoy shooting sports safely and successfully for years to come.
 
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#5 ·
The only thing I see that I don't completely agree with is the recommendation of 20ga for beginners. I coach a youth team of 6-12th grade students. Typically average around 50 shooters on the team each year. I really try to promote the use of a 1oz #8 load in a 12ga over the 20ga, as long as they can handle the weight. variety of 20ga shells are harder to come by, and this load seems to not kick any more than the majority of the 20ga shells that parents are able to find. Again, as long as the students can handle the sometimes slightly heavier 12ga. Now I don't have kids younger than 11years old. So if you are going all the way down to 8 year olds... 20ga may be the only option that is viable given their physical size.

Right now I have several intro students shooting Winchester SXP trap models. 13" LOP on the compact with a 28" or 30" barrel. Fiber front site, come with M, IM, and F Inv+ chokes, monte carlo stock, and shoot 60/40 or maybe a little higher for most shooters out of the box. Local FFL has them for $429.99 new.

Tough to beat as something to get them into Trap, let them still see the target as they shoot it, low price, and decent fit. And if they decide it isn't their sport, use as a pump gun for some bird hunting, or sell only losing maybe 10-20%.

I hate to see new shooters come out the first time with ANY youth gun, 12ga or 20ga. The short little 20-22" barrels are such a handicap for them. We used to tell parents to buy the standard Mossberg 500/maverick 88 with the 28" barrel, and then a cheap used compact/youth stock off ebay to shorten the LOP. But now with the price on these SXP Trap... we are recommending that route.
 
#6 ·
This is a great way to start off a new group, considering some parent and shooter know very little about the sport. I like how you set the expectation early that gun fit is going to change and may need adjusting throughout their first few years. I’ve shot beretta autos and plenty of over/unders for a while and help coach a couple school teams and even more young shooters. An A400 is a gun that can be used from beginning to end and is adjustable to most all build shooters with ease. These guns allow new/smaller shooters to shoot 12gauge guns from the beginning and without having to “make the gun work” which leads to lots of bad habits. I highly suggest autos to everyone that ask, and I would put them in any category you have. There are quite a few great shooters shooting an A400 at a professional level. Another great thing about those guns is the availability and lost cost of replacement stocks if you need to cut one off for a young shooter, it can later be replaced at a very minimal cost, no more than a couple hundred bucks usually, as they grow into a longer LOP. I’ve seen many young shooter not show back up for the second year after having a breech gun beat them up. I’ve been able to get a few back by letting them shoot one of my autos at a much lower recoil level. Most didn’t want to talk about it and had moved on because someone had forced it on them.

Good luck as you combine all your comments into a final document. This kind of commitment is good for the sport’s future.
 
#8 ·
Well here’s my story. We moved from Illinois to Indiana about 10 years ago. Wasn’t long and my son and his family moved too(Grandparents make great baby sitters). Anyways his middle daughter was in 7th grade comes over and tells me her School Hanover has a Trap/Skeet team. I’m thinking sure they do. Well I was wrong they’re scholastic teams. So I ask her you want to try it? Sure! So I take her with me and she watches and sees how trap is shot. Do you want to try. Yes! So me being me I buy her a Stevens single shot Trap 20 ga. She goes out and crushes the first target she ever shot at. But later over summer she’s breaking 15-16 etc. So we are sitting on bench a trap was open nobody on it. I tell her take your grandmothers gun(Perazzi TM1) and shot 1 shot from each station. 5/5. I went home and ordered a Browning Micro BT99 12 ga.
That fall she won district beat all the girls thru Seniors in HS. Sooo I get on Phone and get her a Syren 12 ga combo trap. Now last month took the state. Average 95.5. She’s a Freshman but shoots Varsity squad. Some guys at club won’t shoot with her. “I’m not letting that kid embarrass me” lol . She shot some AIM and were planning on Sparta this July. She’ll shoot 16/Handicap I’ll shoot Vet same thing ATA.
 
#17 ·
Well here’s my story. We moved from Illinois to Indiana about 10 years ago. Wasn’t long and my son and his family moved too(Grandparents make great baby sitters). Anyways his middle daughter was in 7th grade comes over and tells me her School Hanover has a Trap/Skeet team. I’m thinking sure they do. Well I was wrong they’re scholastic teams. So I ask her you want to try it? Sure! So I take her with me and she watches and sees how trap is shot. Do you want to try. Yes! So me being me I buy her a Stevens single shot Trap 20 ga. She goes out and crushes the first target she ever shot at. But later over summer she’s breaking 15-16 etc. So we are sitting on bench a trap was open nobody on it. I tell her take your grandmothers gun(Perazzi TM1) and shot 1 shot from each station. 5/5. I went home and ordered a Browning Micro BT99 12 ga.
That fall she won district beat all the girls thru Seniors in HS. Sooo I get on Phone and get her a Syren 12 ga combo trap. Now last month took the state. Average 95.5. She’s a Freshman but shoots Varsity squad. Some guys at club won’t shoot with her. “I’m not letting that kid embarrass me” lol . She shot some AIM and were planning on Sparta this July. She’ll shoot 16/Handicap I’ll shoot Vet same thing ATA.
Go get them young lady!! Smoke those clays!!
 
#18 ·
Well John think about it, it’s all physics. You push 1 1/8 oz thru a 12 ga pipe at 1200fps now that that same load and push it thru a smaller pipe the pressure has to be higher. Which relates to higher recoil. As a Millright doing hydraulics you learn right away pumps create flow, resistance to flow creates pressure.
 
#19 ·
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#23 ·
Well thought out breakdown. I did something similar 30 yrs ago when asked to teach beginning shotgunning by State system. Two things I don't agree with. IMO, I wouldn't recommend Mossberg pumps as I have witnessed 3 significant quality issues in the past 20 years (2 this past year) that would definitely affect shooter proficiency thru no fault of shooter.
As for 20 gauge choices, early shooters may need the smaller frame, shorter stocks, barrels offered in some 20s) In time, hopefully they continue to shoot and grow into the 12 choices- be it auto, o/u, etc. There are 20 gauge loads that are light recoil (and don't just say so on the box). Noble Sport makes the one we stuck with after disappointment with others. The 870 youth guns (20g) were great for most, but too heavy still for others. Glad to see skb and Tristar listed as an option as their autos tend to be very light and minimal recoil. I put 2 of my own skb 20's in the mix for youth classes with them usually being the preferred gun. Stock was cut down to 13.5" on one.
If shooter is staying with trap & skeet, a pump is fine. In competitive sporting, five stand, Super sporting, etc it is a distinct disadvantage. I bought an 870 as a kid and am very smooth with my current pump, but there are some true pairs legal in Sporting that are virtually impossible to accomplish with a pump. I still shoot a pump for some pump specific events, where the targets are set for the pumpgun, or changed from true pair to report, but I realize that in an open event that pump needs to stay in the safe if I expect to be a serious competitor.
 
#26 ·
Lots of great information. One thing I’ve run into that I didn’t see mentioned regarding semi-auto guns is that the buttstocks on the gas guns can be cut much shorter without running into issues with the recoil spring mechanism. I’ve seen a bunch of small kids have great success with cut down A400s. Also, Coles seems to have a ready supply of inexpensive A400 buttstocks. So, you could cut one down and save the original for when they’re larger.
 
#29 ·
Very well done. I will though go with the thoughts on 20 GA. Three things; the guns are lighter so you can get just as much energy delivered to the shoulder, they will eventually want a 12 and it's harder to break a target with 7/8 compared to 1 or 1 1/8. I have seen some really small girls and guys step and blast 100 targets with a good fitting 12.

From a professional standpoint I would also like to see coaches get their kids into real, multi-color shooting glasses as soon as possible to take advantage of enhanced contrast sensitivity. $10 safety glasses from Walmart just isn't a good way to start.

We developed our economical but high quality SightTrax sets with new shooters in mind. We just got a re-order for 15 more sets from a team in New York and at the team price of $60.00 per set for 5 lenses, it is great value.

I also want to thank all you folks who invest your time and money in getting these kids involved in the shooting sports. It is a good thing you are doing.
 
#33 ·
I would say a Browning Citori CX Micro with adjustable LOP would be a great gun for a new/young shooter. The shortest LOP is 13 1/8"+- I don't know what the longest LOP that it can be adjusted to but I will let you know, as I just got one, 12GA 30” barrel. I’m an old short shooter with a 13 5/8” LOP and when I got my new Citori CX Micro yesterday it was adjusted to it shortest LOP. I could not believe that I have finely found a shotgun that I did not need to find a stock smith to cut off over an inch off the stock so I could use that shotgun. Another thing I’m a left-handed shooter and when I mounted the shotgun with my eye closed then opened it, I was looking right down the center of the rib. I think that there are other adjustments to the pad like up and down and tilt but I’m not sure until I play with it. If you need a shotgun for a new/young shooter I would definitely look at a Browning Citori CX Micro and maybe we can get Browning to keep and\or make more shotguns like this,