[Jerry TMX]

I have found no difference in the AAHS red or Gray hull.

 

[Grizz56]

By "AAHS" are you referring to "Double A Handicap Silver" case?

No those are the old compression formed.

AAHS are the latest ones produced the last 20 yrs. Real shiny with a base wad in bottom. Shiny red and dark grey.

 

[Grizz56]

The gray and red on the left are the old compression formed one piece and the gray and red on the right are the new HS 2-piece with a base wad

 

[Bill T]

All of my AA cases are marked "12" on the left, and "GA" on the right. Most are quite old. I don't understand why they ever got away from the one piece, compression formed hull? They were rugged as hell, and had tremendous reloadability.

 

[sandcountyalmanac]

It's a great powder High Gun/Tight Group, but as is being pointed out, its density requires a smaller bushing than used with the flake powders and one size down wad for stack height; that is, use a 1 oz wad for 1 1/8, 7/8 for 1 oz, etc.

 

[peavine]

Not yet but that will soon change.

 

[Grizz56]

Yep about 30# so far

 

[Bill T]

I'm going to hold off on buying any High Gun. There is simply too much contradiction going on about loading it. The jug states that you can successfully load 1-1/8th ounce in a standard AA-12 wad, (or Claybuster CB-1118), in a AA case, and achieve a correct stack and crimp height.

Yet many here say you cannot. I tend to believe people who have actually tried it by working with this powder. So for now I'll continue my hunt for 700X. I know that will stack and crimp correctly, because it is a flake powder just like Clay's.

And volumetrically it is very similar. What little difference there is can be made up for by varying charge weight and wad pressure, and not changing wads. After I use up my supply of Claybuster CB-1118 wads, then I can change over to most anything.

 

[Bill T]

No those are the old compression formed.

AAHS are the latest ones produced the last 20 yrs. Real shiny with a base wad in bottom. Shiny red and dark grey.

I never noticed that. What is the base wad in the newer AA hulls made from?

 

[Grizz56]

I never noticed that. What is the base wad in the newer AA hulls made from?

Plastic

 

[Bill T]

Plastic

That's good because I always deprime and resize them. Then I run them through the dishwasher. It keeps them nice and clean, and it doesn't pack up all that soot and crap inside the crimping die.

If they had switched to some type of paper or cardboard, I'd be screwed.

 

[Grizz56]

That's good because I always deprime and resize them. Then I run them through the dishwasher. It keeps them nice and clean, and it doesn't pack up all that soot and crap inside the crimping die.

If they had switched to some type of paper or cardboard, I'd be screwed.

 

[phatkaw]

All of my AA cases are marked "12" on the left, and "GA" on the right. Most are quite old. I don't understand why they ever got away from the one piece, compression formed hull? They were rugged as hell, and had tremendous reloadability.

Just so you know, not all of the "GA" marked hulls are Compression Formed!

The first 3-4 years of the newer HS (High Strength) some hulls still had the brass base stamped 12 GA

At first glance, the untrained eye won't notice the difference unless you look down in the hull or 'candle' it...

I have some that are damn near identical and from the same years' Grand that are both flavors.

The photo on the far Right was kinda tough to show but if you look closely the Left hull is an HS and the Right hull is a CF.

 

[Bill T]

Just so you know, not all of the "GA" marked hulls are Compression Formed!

The first 3-4 years of the newer HS (High Strength) some hulls still had the brass base stamped 12 GA

At first glance, the untrained eye won't notice the difference unless you look down in the hull or 'candle' it...

I have some that are damn near identical and from the same years' Grand that are both flavors.

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The photo on the far Right was kinda tough to show but if you look closely the Left hull is an HS and the Right hull is a CF.

That's good to know. For my purposes it doesn't matter. I was only concerned that they were 100% plastic. Because as I mentioned, I deprime and wash them before reloading. The only cases I use are AA, Remington STS or Nitro 27.

 

[pheasantmaster]

I'm not trying to argue with you guys here, but if all that was true, why does Hodgdon list this load right on the jug? (It's the second load down from the top). Are you saying that load is bogus, and will not stack and crimp correctly? Something doesn't wash.

1-1/8th ounce shot - AA hull - WAA12 Wad - Winchester 209 Primer - 18.4 grains / 1,255 FPS

Two items of relevance:
The selection of componets is safe regardless of how it crimps.
The selection of componets are readily available regardless of how it crimps.

That's good to know. For my purposes it doesn't matter. I was only concerned that they were 100% plastic. Because as I mentioned, I deprime and wash them before reloading. The only cases I use are AA, Remington STS or Nitro 27.

It actually does matter for you.

The changeover hull will have slightly less interior volume.
The changeover hull is also the one many users stated they had the basewad come loose and lodge in their barrel.

 

[Bill T]

The changeover hull is also the one many users stated they had the basewad come loose and lodge in their barrel.

If that happens do you get some type of visual warning? For example, will just the brass end be leftover.... Or something that will set off an alarm bell?

 

[Grizz56]

If that happens do you get some type of visual warning? For example, will just the brass end be leftover.... Or something that will set off an alarm bell?

Yes you can't see daylight through the barrel!

 

[phatkaw]

If that happens do you get some type of visual warning? For example, will just the brass end be leftover.... Or something that will set off an alarm bell?

I've gone through many thousands of AAs and found at least 1 that I can remember for sure (probably because it was the first) but I think maybe a time or two more base wads of the newer HSs that were loose and 'forward' of their proper spot.
The one that I remember for certain, I was able to push it back down to the bottom with my pinky...

If I didn't happen to catch that I might have had to start a thread about Remington 1100s blowing up?

 

[Bill T]

Yes you can't see daylight through the barrel!

That's not much help if you shoot a repeater.

 

[Grizz56]

That's not much help if you shoot a repeater.

I guess that's a chance you're taking!