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Citori Universal hi post or Special sporting?

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#1 ·
Thinking about buying one of these but I can't decide which. Anyone here have experience with either or both of them? I do like Citoris and the adjustable rib makes it more versatile going from trap to sporting clays to bird hunting. My son and I were able to handle the hi post one at The Grand and really liked it but didn't compare it to the special sporting model . My son and I both benefit from a lot of drop as in adjusting a buttplate downward so would the design of the hi post's stock help in this regard ? I haven't been able to get actual specs or measurements from the website or over the phone. Are there any other differences that aren't obvious? This would likely be for my 13 year old who is probably 5.5 tall and 150 lbs shooting mostly trap but occasional dove and sporting clays.
Thanks for any suggestions or advice
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#2 ·
Call guns unlimited and see what they say, but I think the only real difference between the two is the stock. If you get the gracoil add-on, then that would allow the adjustments you are looking for. I'd recommend getting the adjustable comb as well. I've got the special sporting model with adjustable comb and stock and its been a good gun.
 
#5 ·
This is coming from a high school coach.
Get the Universal High Post with the adjustable COMB. Do not spend the money for an adjustable rib. There is more and better adjustment using a comb than a rib. At this point, an adjustable rib will be of little value. Your son will grow and you can get a better gun fit from the comb.
If you get really crazy, get adjustable comb and rib. You can spend hours at the range trying to get it set properly every time your son has a growth spurt. You may need to add an adjustable butt plate.
The high post gun can be used for all target games. It is best for trap. The Sporting gun is better for all the other games and not as good at trap. What will you be shooting the most?

Good luck, enjoy.
 
#6 ·
I have the Universal High Post with adjustable rib. Had GU install a Gracoil and I had an adjustable comb done also. A friend of mine has the sporting version with adjustable rib, and another shooter has one without that adjustable rib but had a comb cut into it . Both guys wish they had gotten the gun that I have.
I am very happy with mine. Does everything that I need.
 
#8 ·
I have the Univeral Hi Post 32" with comb and butt plate installed by GU. Talk to Matt. I shoot Trap mostly. But do shoot Sporting Clays and Skeet with just a little adj which was very easy. As for set up went to the pattering board. Set the comb for impact. Then adjusted the rib for sight picture. I like 70/30 my preference. It is a lot of gun for the money and is a pleasure to shoot
 
#9 ·
I'd go for the Universal, it doesn't have the Ported Barrels, and as such is a lot less of a PITB to clean.

Otherwise the guns are identical except for the stock. MY CXS I just got a few months ago doesn't have porting either and it is a breeze to clean. One swipe with the Bore Snake and it's good to go.
My XT that I traded in for the CXS had ports and they peeled plastic off the wads like a Kitchen Shredder. Believe me it is ALOT harder to clean than a non ported gun and the Porting does little to nothing to affect the upward motion of the gun. I heard it affects the Patterns in some way, but have failed to see it in action.

MY .02

Randy
 
#10 · (Edited)
I have 1 of each. The only difference between the 2 guns is the stock - and the gold lettering words. Both guns have porting - not sure what Randy is referring to. I like the Monte Carlo stock over the Sporting stock - but not really sure why. I would certainly have GU add the adjustable comb for the extra $200 it costs. Highly recommend either one. I took both to the pattern board and barrel regulation was excellent for both. They seem to shoot softly as well - I guess they fit me well.

One note for anyone considering these. Browning does use a fairly thick grip-section with palm swell on both of these stocks. I like the narrower, neutral grips of Brownings from years past. I will be looking for a wood worker to modify the grips to make them narrower.
 
#11 ·
I agree the Universal I looked at in Illinois was ported also. I am left handed but I was told they're only available in RH which is neutral cast but I may have to deal with the palm swell. I really wish I could find a used one but there's not much out there that I can find.
Thanks
 
#12 ·
Just called them, only ported barrels for both. Browning does not cut the adjustable comb, they have a local gunsmith do that, so that's a plus from what I hear about Browning's adjustable comb work. Porting seems like a real PITA to clean as well as beating up the bluing around the ports. I opted to go back with a Fabarm ELOS N2 Allsport XL instead.
 
#15 ·
Sorry for the late post, hopefully you haven't made a decision yet. I own the GU universal hi-post. I have had it for almost a year. And i do like it. Coming from semi-autos it took a bit of learning. The gun pictured above is not what you get or at least not what i got. The one pictured above has the CXT style stock with the sharp angled stock from grip to the toe area. The UHP i have has a more blocky stock much like the sporting pictured above. Although it has a Monte carlo style it is not like the UHP in your picture. The stock looks the most like GU website, page #7. I worked with Matt and it was a pleasure to order. I had the graco comb and Gra-coil system installed.
The gun comes completely neutral, there is a ultra light palm swell, but i needed to add a Kick-eez stick on palm swell for it to feel proper. I needed to cast on and add a few spacer to raise the comb.
The butt pad is 6 way adjustable and was simple to adjust. I increase the recoil reduction a few turns because it would collapse on mount. Also simple to do. Add lastly i shortend LOP as the gracoil system allows for 1" adjustment either way.
The wood is nice , the bluing is deep and glossy, and the action was stiff and after 3K rounds still is.
They all come with porting and the adjustable rib seems to be the exact rib on the Browning trap max.
The fore end is thin much like the lightning models and the barrels are joined from about the forcing cones area all the way to the muzzle with a soild bead. In other words there are no "vent holes" like on the cxt barrels. Which to me makes it easy to clean. The rib adjusts with 6 clicks per line and there are 5 lines on the markings. I brought my POI down to what looks like 80/20. Both barrels pattern very closely to each other on paper.
I added the Diana titanum coated choke (IM) to my bottom barrel because i felt like they collect less plastic. And swapped out the recoil pad with a kick eez trap pad.
I was looking for complete adjustability and for the price i dont think there is another on the market. The trigger can also move forward and backwards and came with 3 different type trigger blades. Fiber optic sight came with a large assortment of colors and size lite pipes. 4 chokes in Midas grade came with it, IM, M, IC, S.
Its called the Universal because you can tailor it to what you need 50/50 and open chokes for skeet and all the way to 100/0 with tighter setup or anywhere in between for sporting use. And lastly the chamber is only 2.75" but i have never seen a clay shooter use a 3" shell. I was looking for a workhorse and I think this model fits the bill.
There is no jeweled mono block and some internals are sharp to the touch but again for $3K it checks many boxes. Do i wish it had a beavertail front ? Maybe, but easy to add from browning.com, I test fitted a CXT forend on it and it fits btw. I was able to by a rebuild kit from MGW for $60 bucks, includes all 7 springs, firing pins etc as it is still a Citori.
Do i wish it said "Trap" or just 'Citori" on the action, maybe....cant see it once you mount it anyway,
Lastly, I like the ability to shoot doubles unlike say a BT99, and If i ever graduate to something else, this can easily become my doubles or sporting clay exclusive gun.
Sorry for the rambling long post, hope it helps you make a decision.
 
#20 ·
Everyone, I still am not understanding the main difference in the universal vs the sporting and why some of you favor Universal. Also, my son tried a Citori 725 pro trap and it fit him Perfectly…but I like the adj rib on these…do you think either of these will be similar in fit to the citori 725 pro trap? Which would be closer? The 725 also brags about a “low receiver” for example and I THINK that the special sporting has a Monte Carlo that is more similar to the 725 Trap?…bottom line: are these pretty darn close in overall design to the 725? Also, if any of you have shot the rizzini IPS w/ adj rib and comb I’d be curious for a comparison there as well. Thanks!
 
#21 ·
No, they are not like the 725. Both the Universal and Special Sporting are Citori models and are the same gun except for the stock profile. The Universal has a Monte Carlo stock and the Special Sporting Clays Edition does not.
Both can be ordered with an adjustable rib from Guns Unlimited of Omaha.

I have a Universal High Post with an adjustable rib and comb. I love it.
I also have a Special Sporting Clays Edition with the lower rib. I had an adjustable comb added.
It is a a nice gun but I like the Universal High Post best.
 
#22 ·
Thanks, dogbest! The 725 is also a Citori. And as I look at the GU website right now the photo of the Special with adj rib shows the stock as a Monte Carlo yet the photo of the Special on a subsequent page (the one without the adj rib) shows a parallel stock. I’m confused by that.

What is the major difference between these two guns and the Citori 725’s?

thanks!