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I have owned both and enjoyed shooting each one. For me it comes down to fit and affordability. My first real trap gun was a Beretta 680 but it just did not fit me correctly. I'm currently shooting a Browning Citori XT. I feel the quality is there in both guns but for me it comes down to fit.
Good Shooting!!
 
I own both an XT and an etchen 687 silver pigeon II. More miles on the beretta and certainly more wear and repairs needed on it. A couple of inertia spring fails, and a break lever cam cracked (twice) and the lockup pins wore out, vs just firing pin replacement on the XT.
I did the repairs myself and the Browning is a lot easier to work on.
But I still use the beretta as my primary gun....
 
Shoot a CXS, because the old Citoris models fit me best. The weight also attracted me. It's easy to handle, and having shot both guns, the CXS was going to suck up more recoil.
Both are tried and true companies. Can you go wrong? Only if it doesn't fit.
 
Anyone use a 525 for trap? Looking for a 12g for the wife, and we already own a nice XT, older model with improvements (adj comb, kick-eze). It is has performed well competitively. Real questions is does the 525 shoot high enough for American trap without adjustments?
 
I use a 525 for trap but it has an aftermarket adjustable comb. I don’t like a high shooting gun for trap so this works easily for me. Now if you want a high POI it might not work for you. Mine is set up to shoot very close to 50/50 or maybe 55/45. YMMV.
 
Both are fine guns but I agree with gcbailey's comments. I heard one Beretta owner sum it up with the comment Browning's are built like a club. The Beretta's to me seem a lot more lively in hand but either would serve you well & probably last beyond your lifetime.
 
Real questions is does the 525 shoot high enough for American trap without adjustments?
Both your 525 and your XT have the same POI. So don't worry about that. Too many shooters get hung up on POI. Don't!!! The highest POI you will find on a fixed rib Browning or Beretta is like a 70/30. Very few of these were ever made by either company. You will likely never know or tell the difference in only 10% more shot above the rib. Your talking about a 2 to 2 1/2 inch higher 30 inch pattern @ like 40 yards . 90+% of shooters don't miss targets by a inch or two. They miss most targets by 2 to 4 feet. You can turn a 60/40 shotgun into a 100 percent shotgun easy enough if you like. Just have a aftermarket company install a clip-on rib to your existing shotgun. One that will change a 60/40 shotgun into a 70,80,90,100 percent shotgun that "Think" you want. Then adjust your adjustable comb to line up your beads into a figure 8 and your off. If you don't like your 80/20 rib and want a higher one. Simply buy a higher rib from the same aftermarket rib company and re-adjust your comb. Your off again. Now you may need to install high comb posts at some point. Another cheap fix. So you see there is no need to buy and sell shotguns to try different POI. You can also simply just add space between your existing two beads. Say you want to keep a 1/4 space between the beads. It becomes real easy to have 3/16 of a space on one gun mount then a 5/16 space on the next gun mount. If you keep the space smaller and only allow a 1/8 space it becomes easier to notice a 1/16 space on time and 3/16 space the next. Of course nothing is easier than keeping the beads tight, which also allows one to keep them lined up better for being off left and right as well. Now go find your balance. I'll keep mine tight. If you don't stop your barrels upward movement when you pull the trigger you don't need a higher POI. Trap targets don't rise nearly as fast as some Sporting Clay targets. Trap was started with hunting barrels in the 1800's. When most shotguns did not even have ribs. The game of Trap is a simple game. There are only 3 shots!!! Of course two of them are simply just reversed shots. So don't over complicate it. Trap IMO is the easiest game to over complicate. I have a nasty habit of picking up to much speed as I shoot more. At some point, I start shooting faster than my mind can work. Then a target pops in the wrong place and I hear lost!!! I have focus on slowing down on every post. You simply have to give your mind enough time to see where the target is going so it can move the correct muscle groups to get your barrel there. break em all Jeff
 
Again; Ford vs Chevy. Both produce reliable guns at a decent price. I bought a Beretta 682X O/U many years ago. It was a used gun that I bought off the internet; so I have no idea how many rounds the gun went through before I purchased it. It served as my primary trap gun and until I bought a KS-5 Special (Krieghoff). It now is my sporting clays gun and my backup trap gun. I estimate that I have shot approximately 50K rounds through this gun and like I stated I have no idea how many were shot through it before I purchased it. The only repair cost on this gun was in reality not a repair. Several years ago I had Phillip go through the gun and replace anything that it might need. Phillip examined the gun and replaced the firing pin springs . Now I know the Browning will be just as reliable. But Beretta gets my vote. Bottom line it comes down to whatever fits you best as was mentioned by several shooters on this thread. Good luck. Ed
 
For semi-autos I prefer Beretta hands down over Browning. For entry level O/U I prefer Browning (CXS, CX, CXT). Mid range I would prefer a 682 but since those are discontinued I would hand it to Browning 725. For high end O/U I would prefer Beretta as Browning doesn't offer a competing option at that level.
 
A young shooter (13 years old) I work with on skeet has a brand new 3 week old 12 ga. Browning Cynergy. Every 15 +/- shots, the top barrel does not fire. Upon each inspection of the unfired shell, there's a light hit. Interestingly enough, if reinserted in the same barrel and the trigger pulled, it will fire. Even more interesting, if he pulls the trigger again after the FTF, it WILL fire. This level of quality on a $1500+ gun is IMHO, unacceptable. I'll personally stick with my Beretta O/U's ------
 
My Browning 725 barrel regulation is absolutely perfect, both are right on top of each other, can't say that about my buddies 692! Sent it back and they said it was within factory tolerances. B.S Not for me!
How far was it off? Vertically or Horizontally? I only ask because I wonder what “acceptable” for factory barrels is. I’m sending back a gun because of what I think is unacceptable. Not Browning or Beretta though.
 
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