I am looking to buy a SP1 (28" - 12 gauge) to shoot skeet with. I have been a trapshooter for 15 years but at my club most of the guys shoot skeet. once a week I may be able to shoot trap with 1 or 2 others while the skeet guys always have a full squad. Having said that, a new SP1 seems too go for $2250. What price is a fair (to buyer and seller) price for a modestly used SP1? and does it make sense to buy used or new when it comes to this particular (model) shotgun? As always I appreciate the education you all provide. It does make a difference.
Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon - New or Used
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Contact Jaquas....Not sure who this is. Please advise.
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Was actually looking for a lighter shorter gun than my 32" BT-100 and 32" Citori Trap that I use for trapshooting.
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no worries. Appreciate the thought :>)
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I wont google Jaquas for you! You will have to apply some of your own effort! Good luck getting to 50 posts
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Why???
Use your Citori Trap gun. Your arms will never know the difference if you use your legs to turn your whole body!!! They way you should move a gun. Just like Bender says, use your legs to drive your waist. Your waist drives your upper body. No matter, if your using a 6 1/2 gun, or a 9 1/2 pound gun to your legs. Your shoulder on the other hand will notice the recoil big time!!! Good Luck on your quest.
If you can post a short move of you shooting doubles on station 2 or 6 with your BT-100. I would like to watch it. LOL.
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I have to disagree to a point. I had a Citori 32” and now a Beretta 686 Sporting in 30”. A skeet and sporting clays gun. I shoot the Beretta much better for skeet and sporting. It’s much livelier for me in the swing. I want my trap guns longer and heavier for the stability. Recoil is not an issue for me in clays loads. I think a livelier swinging gun is much better for skeet and sporting.
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It works both ways. A Heavier gun keeps the gun, swinging better than a lighter gun. My legs can't tell the difference if my gun weights 8 lbs? Or 9 lbs? So the difference is in your head. You never use your arms to move the shotgun. Or at least you shouldn't be using your arms at all to move the gun. So how can one gun be livelier than another? Mmm Now at some point age starts to become a factor. So, Its all about balance. Everyone must find out what works for them. Their is no right answer? Or wrong answer. If it works for you, go for it. Its just that many of us think a certain way. Which in turn can limit the different things we try!!! I mean really, if a 32 inch barrel is too heavy for you, then install titanium chokes and its the same!!! a 32 inch barrel has much better resale value, so why buy a 30 inch barrel for trap, skeet, or sporting clays!!! If recoil is not a issue? then a lighter gun will work just fine. Like I mentioned earlier. The lighter gun works best for the young and (now) for the old as well. Of course their is always a exception to every rule. I was just making a point about light guns for target shooting. Most all of the best skeet/sporting guns weight in between 8 lbs. 3 oz's and 8 lbs. 12 oz's. The Silver Pigeon is just over 7 lbs. and a few ounces. About a full pound too light IMO. That makes a big difference in felt recoil. You have to watch the weight on some Browning makes of shotguns now as well. Its cheaper to produce a lighter gun with less metal. You want a good Beretta now, you have to move up the 694 line. The only reason Beretta makes the Silver Pigeon is to compete price wise with the 2 grand Browning shotgun. So Browning fired back and make a lighter cheaper copy as well.
Anyway we could discuss this all night if we wanted to. Now go out and keep a open mind about trying different guns. Try as many as you can at your local range, if your thinking about a new gun. Try to Keep a open Mind, and try as many guns as you can, is the best way to find what works for YOU!!! Look at me. I bought a Beretta after all the reports I posted about barrel regulation. Granted I bought a 391 auto that was made before the crash of 08. But still I bought a Beretta!!! And its a great shotgun!!! So it never hurts to keep a open mind when picking your next shotgun. I hope I gave Y'all something to think about. Good Luck and don't forget to break em all jeff
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Well Jeff, you are right we could debate which I won’t. We have different views. Variety is the spice of life I suppose. I’m 72. Got my first shotgun at 14. I would bet hard money I’ve owned more shotguns of various brands and types than most posters on this forum. I was a gun trader, but not so much now. Fixed income does that to you. I’m happy with my present crop of shotguns and they work very well for me. Lifetime of wing shooting and clay target sports. I think it’s up to the individual what works best for them and there is no one size fits all for everybody. Of course there are general methods of trapshooting that are widely accepted and I certainly agree with that, but choice of shotgun for the different clay sports to me is highly individualistic. Some shotguns I can’t shoot period. Some I shoot lights out out of the box. I had a few that kicked me to death and I’m a pretty big old boy and still tough. Got rid of them after a box or two. I enjoyed the conversation for sure but I think I’ll stay with my own views and you can have yours. Respectfully, Chief.
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I am slow swinging the Citori. Yes, I know it's my lack of skill. Your explanation is certainly valid. Was thinking a shorter gun would help me as I try to learn skeet shooting. re: the BT-100 - I did get a good laugh for your response. :>)
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Guilty. I usually think the same about others. I never just google people. Did not cross my mind...my bad.
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That’s the point I was trying to make. For ME, it took a bit to get the gun moving and then a bit to slow it down in skeet shooting. Due to weight and barrel length. When I went to a shorter, lighter, quicker handling gun, my scores went up by four or five birds. Now for trap, there is not so much gun movement, so heavier, longer, is better in my opinion for more stability. Citori in 32 or BT99 in 34 is my choice for trap. I don’t express myself as well as Jeff does. My old mind is not as sharp as it used to be.
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