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Anyone own a 30” or 32” Fabarms L4S semi-auto. trap doubles and/or sporting clays?

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#1 · (Edited)
Several local shooters are using the Beretta A400 Multi-target for Trap.

These 2017 Sporting model Fabarms, the L4S’s especially the 30” and 32” versions look pretty interesting for fast cycling trap doubles. Anyone tried one? Was the cycling reliable for you ...

any other comments or thoughts ... thx
 
#6 ·
I had a 30 inch Sporting L4S and liked it a lot but they got rid of my 5 stand shooting facility near me so I sold it. 5 Stand is what I had intended it for. I think it is a great clays semi and as time goes by I think you will see more and more. Beretta has a 60 year head start on supplying guns to USA with a vast dealer network, so I think that is why there are so many more seen of their products.

The internals comparison that I did between the L4S Sporting and the A400 told me all I needed to know. Good stuff. Fortunate that I have a FABARM dealer near me here in Tampa in case I want another.
 
#7 ·
I don't have anything against the A400 but for sporting when the L4S is available and about the same price, it's the L4S by a full length at the wire.....better components, design, and IMO, better looking and the cleaning is a big deal to me. I wipe down with a Simple Green Safety Towel after each shoot and then a cleaning about every 2K rounds with the end result being, it runs like you would think a Ferrari would.
 
#2 ·
While I can't directly answer your question. I have seen very few Fabarm auto's shot while shooting all 3 games. I have however seen a lot of Beretta A400 auto's in several styles in all 3 games. Fabarm is the new guy on the block. How well they hold up, and how long they will stay in business and keep making parts may still be a ? in some shooters minds. Hope this helps somewhat? break em all jeff
 
#3 ·
I have a 30" L4S Sporting that I shoot NSCA sporting clay events with. Owned many different autos in the past and the L4S is the best pointer for me.....moves to the tgt. effortlessly. It likes to be clean and the gas system dry and the action wet. Appro. 11K rounds so far and it's a joy to shoot....had 3 Perazzis....sold them because of the performance of the L4S. Had Briley do a trigger job and no need for aftermarket chokes. The best I've had including custom Ti Thin walls. At one time had 4, 391's and the L4S Sporting is much easier to clean.
 
#4 ·
That is a lot of research and effort. Sounds like it paid off! I totally agree with the ease of handling and point-ability. I shot 391’s for several years —- but the annoying, disrupting occasional failures to feed were impossible to overcome. What a distracting score killer

So here I am, thinking about giving a semi another go ... the people at Coles Guns gave the L4S a recommenced .. or at least a “ worth considering”
 
#8 ·
The only way to know is for me to buy one and run it... so that’s what I’m going to do. Fingers crossed.

I can’t believe they actually made a 32” barrel. I don’t think Beretta ever did, specifically on the Sporting 391.. they may have made a 32” step rib trap model 391 but never a 32” sporter. Anyway that’s what I’m looking for.. a Fabarm Deluxe 32” left handed L4S... woohoo!!
 
#14 ·
I currently own this gun. Have about 300 rounds through it shooting skeet and a couple of rounds of trap. Handle one first if you can. I bought mine used and it came with the kinetic recoil reducer, aka stock weight. Without that I think it would be too barrel heavy for my taste. I like the 32" for trap, would prefer the 30" for skeet - and if I shot sporting. Cleaning is easy, not benelli easy, but not bad. The best thing about it is that it's good as is: The recoil pad is good, comes with 5 chokes, the trigger is good, looks good.
 
#18 ·
I have a 391, A-400 and an L4S. When I decide to shoot an auto I grab the L4S. It handles nice, cycles reliably. I had custom wood put on it(real wood) and have pull and release triggers for it done by Cole. I also had Cole strip and black cerakote the receiver, just to be different.
Due to unforseeen circumstances it is for sale on Guns International at the moment. When it sells I will regret it as usual.
 
#12 ·
How do they handle light loads? We have several kids that shoot A400s on our youth team. The A400s dont always cycle the 1oz 1180 Super Targets that our program supplies. I am looking at getting an A400 or the Syren LS4 for my daughter.
 
#16 ·
How do they handle light loads? We have several kids that shoot A400s on our youth team. The A400s don'
How do they handle light loads? We have several kids that shoot A400s on our youth team. The A400s dont always cycle the 1oz 1180 Super Targets that our program supplies. I am looking at getting an A400 or the Syren LS4 for my daughter.
t always cycle the 1oz 1180 Super Targets that our program supplies. I am looking at getting an A400 or the Syren LS4 for my daughter.
My wife shoots a Syren L4s and it’s happy with the light loads. Start with 1 oz. when new then after 100 – 200 rounds it’ll shoot 7/8 oz. just fine. She will shoot 7/8 oz. and up to 1 1/8 oz. without any issues, depending on ammo availability.
She had been shooting 1 oz. fairly regularly & I ran out of 1 oz. so I slipped her 1 1/8 oz. for a full round of clays one day and she didn’t notice the difference. So now, 7/8 oz. – 1 1/8 oz., whatever’s available. She loves the gun.
For a comparison to your daughter, she’s 5’ 4” & 125 lbs. and a grandma.
Go back and re-read ALL of 4th. down’s posts, he right on. I have the Deluxe Hunter I use for upland birds and occasionally sporting clays and agree with him 100%. Especially when he states “It likes to be clean and the gas system dry and the action wet.” Other than I still shoot my P-guns for all the clays games.
I had serious ethics and credibility problems with Somarriba, Inc. in Miami, FL. Gunbroker.com suspended them as a seller for one year after my experience with them. When purchasing my wife’s Syren I was very happy with DFW Shooting Sports in Bedford, TX.
 
#13 ·
IMO, the Syren L4S Sporting is a great looking gun and should fit her reasonably well. She would also have the distinction of shooting something a bit different than everyone else. Can't discount that "cool" factor for a young lady!


The Sporting models should not have any problem with those loads once they go through a bit of initial break in. I would think that the L4S hunting models would require faster 1 oz loads to be totally reliable. There is a difference in the gas pistons used in those models.
 
#15 ·
Thanks for the review ... the 32” barrel is an “advanced” option on a semi auto..

what you sacrifice in sight picture on close targets you gain back more shooting long crossers and towers... as you know, the NSCA target setters are drastically stepping up the difficulty of the game trying to stay one step in front of the master class shooters. I don’t know about the kinetic stock option you have, was that a factory option or aftermarket ?
 
#17 ·
Thanks for the review ... the 32” barrel is an “advanced” option on a semi auto..

what you sacrifice in sight picture on close targets you gain back more shooting long crossers and towers... as you know, the NSCA target setters are drastically stepping up the difficulty of the game trying to stay one step in front of the master class shooters. I don’t know about the kinetic stock option you have, was that a factory option or aftermarket ?
Factory.
Kinetik Recoil Reducer - 150g (XLR5 and L4S models) - FABARM USA