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23 Yard - Shell Choice

6.8K views 28 replies 24 participants last post by  Jim Porter  
#1 ·
We started the Summer League last week and now we have been assigned 23 yards for our handicap yardage. What shell to shoot for 23yards?
I reload all my League ammo and can make anything I decide upon. Generally I load a one once shell at 1220 FPS with 8.5 shot for 16 yards and general purpose shooting (Skeet, 5 Stand and such) This is a shell I use on trap out to 21 yards. Recoil is nothing and it costs less to shoot. I have a small supply of 1 1/8 ounce at 1200 fps with West Coast 8's. I keep the 1 1/8 shells for hunting and long range games.
What should I use for 23 yards. I could easily make some 1290 FPS in 7.5 or 8. Will one ounce of 7.5 work well at 23yards or should I stick with the full load 8's with 1 1/8 ounces.
Your thoughts and rational please.
 
#6 ·
Why not shoot a practice round or two before league using your 16 yard load with 8’s or 7-1/2.

The 2-3/4 dram equivalent of a 1 oz load is spec at 1180 FPS,

a 3 dram load of 1 oz is 1235FPS.
 
#11 ·
BTW, this will get really messy when I start loading shells. I was going to use Fed GM hulls or Grand Hulls. My components on hand are Win 209's, Red Dot Powder, 12S3, 12S0, and CB6100 wads. Alliant Data, of course does not show a one ounce load using a W209 primer. There is only one load shown with Red Dot for a 1200 FPS load and it uses a FED209A. Everything else is a 1300 FPS. Lack of a full set of data is the reason I try not to use Alliant powders. Green Dot is the only powder i have any faith in but I am all out right now. Red Dot will have to do until I can find something else.
The Remington hull data for a one ounce loads is worse than the Federal GM hulls. Uggghhhhhh.
There is sufficient data for either hull in 1 1/8 load, not what I really want to load due to cost and recoil.
 
#12 ·
My everyday one ounce load uses Eagle #8. So I'm really loading #8 thru #9 shot due to Eagle always running small. I don't have a lot of confidence in 8.5 and 9 pellets at 23 yards. Good hard 8's or 7.5 would make me feel better. I can get my hands on some West coast 8's or 7.5.
Thanks for the responses.
 
#13 · (Edited)
I shot nothing but 8s until I got to the 25 yard line. I had too many birds that I dusted and did not break...thats when I went to 7.5's and I use nothing but West Coast.

Just ignore what yard line you are on. What is more important is keeping your head down and gun moving. If you do that it will break.

More importantly, those are good looking dogs in your profile pic.
 
#15 ·
Just fill your shot bottle with #8 shot and have at it. If I were you. I would go down one powder bushing on your #81/2 shot singles load though!!! No need to have a 1,220 fps load on the 16 yard line. I like one oz. of #8 1/2 shot for the 16 yard line though. Just load it at 1,180 fps is all. Now get out there and have some fun. break em all jeff
 
#21 ·
IM choke and 1 oz 7 1/2's @ 1200 or 1220 with smoke targets at 23 yards like nothing if you are on the target, if not nothing will work, most important head on stock, eye on target and keep gun moving through target, then smoke ball it is
 
#24 ·
23 was our yardage during league as well. I tried a couple rounds with #7.5 shot 1220 fps handicap loads loads, i had something funky with powder metering in these particular loads (a couple flubs and light shots) I switched to my #8 7/8 oz 16yd loads (its all I had on hand) and noticed no measurable difference on how the targets were breaking nor was there a drop in score. I'm not at all saying 7/8th is the way to go, but don't lose sleep on shot size at that yardage, particularly in the warmer months.
 
#26 ·
I think I'll run the one ounce at 1220ish like I have. I just need to get some good shot instead of the trash Eagle shot I have on hand. #8 West Coast, one ounce, doing 1220 fps will get er done. Now I have to extrapolate a load with Red Dot and decide if it is going in a Federal or Rem hull.
Components on hand:
Federal GM, Grands and Top Gun - Hulls
12SO OEM, 12S0 Downrange clones, CB 6100 - Wads (The CB 6100 is my least preferred due to really low pressures with that wad)
Remington STS, Nitro, Gun Clubs and Field and Clays - Hulls
TGT12 OEM, Down Range TGT12 clone Hybris 8 petal, Green Duster - Wads
Win 209 primers
Red Dot powder.
Since the Alliant data is short on loads using w209 primers when using Federal hulls and Rem hulls, if any one has a load using any of the above components I would love to hear about it. Looking for 1200 plus, FPS speed.

Thanks again for all the replies.