Can any one tell me if there is a difference in patterning between 1 0z. vs 1 1/8th oz shot ? I shot 2 rounds of trap today with 1 0z. loads and did not notice any substantial difference in the target break at 16 yards.
1 0z vs 1 1/8th oz. shot for trap.
Colorado 2018
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One of friends told me he , his wife and daughter shot 1 oz. loads for a year (the ladies were both All Americans). They dropped their average by 1 target. In my opinion, that's a lot for an AA.
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Ever notice the guys promoting light shot weights never post their name/ATA number and average ?
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Pbansen makes valid points. But practicing with less recoil could possibly have an Ill effect also. Not use to the recoil added to the confusion of a bigger shoot, Phil Kiners word not mine "pressure". I like to practice like I'm competing. 200 rounds with 1 ounce loads for practice i bet in a league, big shoot, even games, by the 100 mark people start getting tired because they haven't conditioned themselves to that load. Once your mind goes in a shoot it's hard to recover after your body is wore down too. I will practice with what I shoot at any sort of shoot. Train and practice the whole body not just a portion!
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I've patterned 1 oz loads using modified, improved modified, and full chokes and compared the patterns to 1.12 loads using the same gun and chokes at 30, 35, and 40 yards. I like the looks of patterns using the 1.12 oz loads. The patterns appear more dense and have fewer holes. Therefore, I use 1.12 oz loads for all competition events. While shooting casual trap, using 1 oz loads may be ok for many. However, while shooting trap competitions, I prefer all the shot in my loads that are allowed. Confidence in your gun, choke, and loads make a difference when shooting trap competitions.
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I'll just say this. In DTL trap we are limited to 28 gram (1 oz) loads other than for handicap.
I'd use 1 1/8 (32 gram) at 1150/1200 all day if I could.
When all is said and done, it's a significant extra % of lead in the air. I'd have it if I could.
I'd use 1 1/8 (32 gram) at 1150/1200 all day if I could.
When all is said and done, it's a significant extra % of lead in the air. I'd have it if I could.
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I agree 100% -- that's why they stopped me from using 1 1/4 oz.!!!!
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You can't use 1¼ anymore? What's this world coming to.
FITASC is considered a harder game at big SCs shoots. A couple of years ago they went from 1 1/4oz to 1oz of shot. Everyone was up in arms believing the scores were gonna plummet. They actually went up - because there wasn't the big toll from recoil. Guess patterns different suffer too much. International skeet and trap both have a 7/8oz [ 24gram ] limit . I'd be willing to bet 16yd scores wouldn't change a bit. Good shooters are breaking birds with the center 20" of the pattern, not the fringe. There's plenty of BBs in that 20" pattern with 1oz of shot.
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I have been shooting 1oz for a while, thought I would give 7/8 a try, I notice no difference in the breaks, when I am on they break, when I miss they don’t. Also I don’t flinch. I don’t shoot registered so I am not loosing anything if I don’t break them all but I sure enjoy it more. I also shoot #8 so I have the same number of pellets in a 1 oz load as 1-1/8 have in 7-1/2. If I shoot handicaps I use #7-1/2 and my breaks are just as good as the guys using 1-1/8. Just my 2 cents worth.
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It is NOT a proven fact that scores went up because of the lessening of felt recoil, that is a very misleading statement. In fact most of the instructors in English Fitasc are of the opinion that scores went up because there was more attention paid to proper pointing of the target knowing they had to use a smaller payload. Another advantage was there was less muzzle jump which made acquiring the 2nd target of a true pair slightly easier. Felt Recoil was not the reason for the mandatory reduction.
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You are not an A or AA class shooter, apparently.
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I always encourage people to use 7/8 oz and 1 oz shot shells for trap. I use 1-1/8 oz new shells myself for ATA events, but again I encourage other people to use less shot at all times. It’s best for the environment, helps save energy and conserve our resources.
BTW, I have it on video, Leo Harrison admitting he used 1 oz number 8’s for his first shot at doubles. It’s true!
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WOAH! How long to get that one before a Judge?
You sir are w a y out of line. You must first own a TriStar in order to talk to Tron like that.
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