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#22 ·
The barrel is definitely rolled. The receiver appears to be hand engraved, you can see the uneven chase marking in the cutouts. Also some of the designs are slightly uneven. It could be machined also.
 
#23 ·
Man I wish I could go back to the middle 1970's and pick up some Remington's in a lot of Models from .22LR to Centerfires Rifles to Shotguns and yes a 870 All American also for $550 I wonder how many were made, what a deal.
I would like to see a 2020 All American in a 11-87 with Monte Carlo Stock. :)
 
#24 ·
I think I paid around $500 for my 870 TA back in 1978. I've made some cosmetic improvements to it the decades since then. I'll photograph it and post pics soon. It looks pretty good for a 41 year old trapgun.
 
#26 ·
Just wanted to add that the former Remington Exec I speak to frequently confirmed that the "engraving" on the 870 All American is rolled on. The only hand engraving was done in the Custom Shop on the noted "D" and "F" grades.

Also, I looked on the web for different images of the engraving and found that it is executed in the same way on all of them. Remington even went to the trouble to make the engraving around the medallion in an "uneven" scroll on one side so that it 'looks' like it was hand done. If any are interested, the loop on the lower right side of the medallion is not as 'round' and even in the loop as the one on the left side. Every image I could find of the medallion side looks the same in that area.

Scott Hanes
 
#27 ·
Yeah, I noticed that, Scott. Usually with roll engraving, there is displaced metal above the surface level, as there is in Shotgun Reloader's pics. The receiver shows none of that. Amazing that they deliberately messed up that scroll to make it look hand done.
 
#29 ·
Looks like they even tried to duplicate the chatter marks.
 
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It would have been interesting to know how the roll marking was done. I have seen the 1100 roll marking done. A bunch of pressure applied early in the process on the solid block of steel. Doing the roll later on would have been a different procedure to ensure that the receiver was not compressed out of true. I have one more contact that may know the details.

Scott Hanes
 
#31 ·
Wouldn't the "roll" have been hand engraved in a mirrored relief? As such, wouldn't it be rife with imperfections that get impressed into the receiver?

I guess the point I'm trying to make is they didn't have to try to fake the "hand engraved look".
 
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