Just for my own curiosity... speaking of the factory loaded shells here. I see lots of folks talking about shooting Remington Gun Clubs, Federal Top Guns and all the variations of them for "second level under Premium loads". Not much said about Winchester Super Targets. Yes, they're steel based. So are the other two brands. I understand many reloaders don't like the hulls for reloading because of base wads or hull life. That's fine, I reload mostly AA HS hulls 'cause that's what I've got. I justify the expense of the AA shells by reloading them and have no interest in reloading Super Targets, Gun Clubs or Top Guns. I do however sometimes shoot the "second levels" at 16's and doubles and pitch the hulls or give them to someone that wants them. According to the handy dandy chart published on this site showing shot hardness of varying loads and lead brands, Winchester Super Targets have the hardest shot of the three brands. Is there a silent majority shooting Super Targets or did I miss a reason to shun them??
Abolt243
The Winchester Super Target shells are one of the WORST FOR STICKING IN
THE CHAMBER AFTER FIREING.......if your gun has no problem with them
......then FIRE AT WILL !!!
THE CHAMBER AFTER FIREING.......if your gun has no problem with them
......then FIRE AT WILL !!!
Winchester Super Targets are very popular in Western Canada. No one around here buys Remington Gun Clubs because Remington makes no effort whatsoever to market them in Canada; the lead shot in them is too soft for Handicap anyway. I use Federal Top gun or Super Targets for registered shoots. I gave up on reloading because of the cost of components especially lead shot.
I shoot them for doubles, sometimes singles and let them fly. The case mouth is extremely contrary when trying to crimp.
The only box of Super Targets I ever shot had 6-7 hulls that stuck in my 90-T . I`ve never had any other shell stick in my guns . First and only box of them I will ever shoot .
Ditto to what others are saying about sticking. We got a bunch in a Friends of the NRA grant for my HS teams. Had lots of issues of sticking in vavrious types of guns. If they work for you, shoot em up.
I like them...have a couple flats of super light 1oz 8’s waiting on spring doubles
No problem sticking in my Alfermann or 725
No problem sticking in my Alfermann or 725
For me, the best second level shell on the market. I have plenty of other right now but waiting for Academy to run their 20% promotion to buy a bunch more for the season. Absolutely will not buy guns clubs as have never shot them well. I do agree though, that it seems less people shoot them now as compared to 10 or so years ago.
My HS Team shot up a about 90 flats of the 1oz 1180fps, no issues and broke targets just fine! I got a few flats myself for practice and derby’s. No sticking in any of the guns the kids had or my Perazzi. Great economy shells!
My gun doesn’t like them, or the Winchester USA cheap shells. No sticking problems just don’t pattern as well as my Estates super sport competition target shells. Even the Winchester Universals pattern better. You know the ones you get at Walmart.
The only problem I see with the Super Target is it seems to use a softer plastic in the wad, (orange wad) which translates to more plastic fouling. I say "seems to" cause I can't measure it
Never stuck one in our 3 BT-99's or 2 Crossovers. It is my preferred shell in buying at Walmart
Last batch I had wasn't a problem getting them out of the gun, it was getting them in it. Three or four out of every box had a cocked was or looked like it got ran over. Been using the estate tan box shells and not having problems. It's a shame cause I like the super targets but just like gun clubs q. c . Got to be a problem.
I won a case of the 3 dram 1 1/8 at a shoot one time, so I tried them for handicaps and shot them amazingly I ended punching a full yard.
I think the Win super target and the Estate Super Sport are the best lower end shell their is.
I have never patterned them I have just shot my best scores with them.
I think the Win super target and the Estate Super Sport are the best lower end shell their is.
I have never patterned them I have just shot my best scores with them.
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