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gamebore sporting ammo
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www.aisbulkammo.com has it as well.
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AIS Bulk ammo as mentioned along with the KL ammo. Also Cross Creek Clays in Tennessee is a dealer. I like the White Gold the best. The Dark Storm hammers targets, but also hammers my shoulder.
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I've seen alot of the Pro's shooting Gamebore ammo. I'd like to get my hands on a couple boxes just to try it out. Can't find it in Ohio though. BYG
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Thanks for the response. To answer your question, if it’s expensive and British it must be superior to AAs, STS, Federal, etc. There’s a podcast focused on sporting clays called Behind the Break. It’s a good listen, usually. Gamebore came up in a recent conversation on the podcast with sporting shooter David Radulovich. He said he was breaking 100+ yard targets with the Gamebore: that’s why he shoots it (plus it’s a sponsor). I thought, well that’s quite a handicap. It’s marketing hyperbole IMO.
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Due to having a 93 year old Mother in the UK. I tend to be there often and get to shoot a few times a year. White Gold is a good shell as are many others and over the last 20 years I have shot many different types in the UK. My Go To shell happens to be a major competitor Lylavale Express Super Comp. are these any better, who knows. These are both a top line 28 gram load and work well.
When shooting in sporting in Canada or the USA I use Winchester 1oz Super Sporting or AA Light Handicap. Do I find a difference, I my own case NO. They are all great shells, its up to the operator.
White Gold pattern very well at the longer distances we tend to see when shooting sporting in the UK. Shooters also tend to use a full range of shot sizes depending on the targets. Last week at a Sporting shoot in the UK, I shot #7, 71/2 and 8's.
Use what works best for you, but don't be afraid to try other makes of shell.
Devonian.
When shooting in sporting in Canada or the USA I use Winchester 1oz Super Sporting or AA Light Handicap. Do I find a difference, I my own case NO. They are all great shells, its up to the operator.
White Gold pattern very well at the longer distances we tend to see when shooting sporting in the UK. Shooters also tend to use a full range of shot sizes depending on the targets. Last week at a Sporting shoot in the UK, I shot #7, 71/2 and 8's.
Use what works best for you, but don't be afraid to try other makes of shell.
Devonian.
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Gamebore is the lastet to push the Gordon System as noted in their marketing pieces, like this one:
High Performance with Low Recoil
The Gordon Recoil System is Exclusive to Gamebore in the UK. This unique recoil reduction system has been performance engineered by the renowned Italian manufacturers Baschieri and Pellagri.
The legendary and revolutionary designed base wad incorporated within the case head reduces recoil by up to 15% allowing higher performance, long range loads to be developed without adversely affecting the shooter.
gamebore.com/uk/cartridge/clay/12g-blue-diamond
blah, blah, blah
High Performance with Low Recoil
The Gordon Recoil System is Exclusive to Gamebore in the UK. This unique recoil reduction system has been performance engineered by the renowned Italian manufacturers Baschieri and Pellagri.
The legendary and revolutionary designed base wad incorporated within the case head reduces recoil by up to 15% allowing higher performance, long range loads to be developed without adversely affecting the shooter.
gamebore.com/uk/cartridge/clay/12g-blue-diamond
blah, blah, blah
As I imagine our British cousins would say; Bollocks.
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I tried Gamebore 1oz #7.5 1290 at this year's NSCA Nationals and it was excellent! The only thing I disliked is the box, which seemed to be made out of thin paper and fell apart as I picked it up. One would think that at this price ($8.90/box) it would be packaged better. However, I tried Bornaghi Gold 1oz #7.5 1250 and... this is my new most favorite shell! Targets just disappeared in the air with MOD at 40 yards. And $10-12 less per case than Gamebore. Check it out, highly recommend!
Dwight was there with his trailer selling at the Cardinal shoot this year. Nice stuff!
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Isn't Gamebore the brand of ammo that G. Digweed uses/promotes?
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I knew the founder, Jeff Dales, and his son Stephen very well.........lovely people. As well as an interest in shooting and making money (Jeff was a shrewd businessman) he also had an interest in flying. From memory he owned a light aircraft which he flew out of former RAF Kirmington, an old WWII bomber base, now called Humberside Airport.
The ammunition factory in Hull, which I visited many times, had its own shot tower. That was unusual. To see it working was an education. It might be one of very few that's still operational in the UK.
Jeff was kind enough to provide me with free ammunition ('White Gold' and 'Clear Winner') which I used in international competitions for several years in the late 80s. Quality was excellent and I never had a single bad shell as far as I knew.
You question whether Gamebore ammunition is better than Winchester AAs. I shot many thousands of 8 star crimped AAs in North America in the 70s and just as many 6 star heat sealed crimped Italian-made AAs in the 1980s when I was sponsored by Winchester UK.
I can honestly say that the Gamebore and Winchester factory shells I used were equally well-made and consistent. I wouldn't have used them if they weren't. I'd be happy to shoot either providing they were still free :hello:.
How those brands compare today I've no idea because I only use Fiocchi :happysad:.
The B&P Gordon system is used in the White Gold but not used in the Gamebore Dark Storm.
The Gamebore “Diamond Shot,” may have improved patterning characteristics useful for longer shots. Diamond Shot is also available in the less expensive Kent Elite Target shells. Kent now owns Gamebore. As a Handicap load, the Diamond Shot may be a sort of worthwhile consideration.
Caveat 1: I think shell choices get over analyzed. I suppose there aren’t a lot of variables in shotgun shooting so chokes, ribs, shells, shot size all get debated ad nauseam. The shotgun is a crude weapon of smooth bore steel tubes throwing hundreds of little knuckleballs. Just pick a shell, any shell.
Caveat 1.2b: I have close to 120 flats of all varieties of shells because I obsess just like everyone else. So, if you want to know what Diamond Shot looks like, versus AA, STS, B&P, Clever Bol d’ Or, etc., just let me know. Bornaghi though I don’t have. That’s what I need next.
Caveat 2: I do think there is a small recoil improvement with the B&P Gordon system but it would be hard to notice. The Gordon hull compresses at its base on ignition and may extend the timing of the recoil impulse. And, since it isn’t ejected, well then, it’s not part of the ejecta equation. I just don’t think it is noticeable nor worth paying more because of it. The real recoil improvement in the B&P shell is that it says 1,260 fps on the box. Soft shooting for 1,260. Well actually, it’s closer to 1,200 fps. The Gamebore loads are said to chrono close to what is on the box.
The Gamebore “Diamond Shot,” may have improved patterning characteristics useful for longer shots. Diamond Shot is also available in the less expensive Kent Elite Target shells. Kent now owns Gamebore. As a Handicap load, the Diamond Shot may be a sort of worthwhile consideration.
Caveat 1: I think shell choices get over analyzed. I suppose there aren’t a lot of variables in shotgun shooting so chokes, ribs, shells, shot size all get debated ad nauseam. The shotgun is a crude weapon of smooth bore steel tubes throwing hundreds of little knuckleballs. Just pick a shell, any shell.
Caveat 1.2b: I have close to 120 flats of all varieties of shells because I obsess just like everyone else. So, if you want to know what Diamond Shot looks like, versus AA, STS, B&P, Clever Bol d’ Or, etc., just let me know. Bornaghi though I don’t have. That’s what I need next.
Caveat 2: I do think there is a small recoil improvement with the B&P Gordon system but it would be hard to notice. The Gordon hull compresses at its base on ignition and may extend the timing of the recoil impulse. And, since it isn’t ejected, well then, it’s not part of the ejecta equation. I just don’t think it is noticeable nor worth paying more because of it. The real recoil improvement in the B&P shell is that it says 1,260 fps on the box. Soft shooting for 1,260. Well actually, it’s closer to 1,200 fps. The Gamebore loads are said to chrono close to what is on the box.
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