[tractorboy]

Vectan data shows the following 20ga 7/8 oz loads:

Hull - Rem
primer - R209
wad - WAA20
powder - A0 16.0 gr
1200 fps @ 10,000 psi

Hull - WAA-HS
primer - W209
wad - WAA20
powder - A0 15.8 gr
1200 fps @ 10,700 psi

These recipes look similar to what is shown for Universal powder, but A0 must be a bulkier powder because Vectan shows a MEC 33 bushing throws 21.8 grains of A0, while Hodgdon shows that a 33 bushing throws 25.2 grains of Universal. A0 must also be bulkier than Unique as Alliant shows a 33 bushing throws 22.5 grains.

Is anyone out there loading either of these listed loads and shooting it in tubes? If so, how is the fit and what kind of crimps are you getting with the WAA20 wad which is probably the tallest 20 7/8 oz wad out there. What is your general impression of the target breaking performance?

 

[rosies dad]

Following, as I am thinking of placing an order to Graffs for Vectan powder, AO being one of them. I am particularly interested to see if the components FIT in the various AA cf, AA HS, and Rem gun club hulls with "clone" wads.

 

[moman3]

Following, as I am thinking of placing an order to Graffs for Vectan powder, AO being one of them. I am particularly interested to see if the components FIT in the various AA cf, AA HS, and Rem gun club hulls with "clone" wads.

As I replied in the other forum, 15.8 - 16.1 grains fits fine in Gunclubs ;

 

[sschultz2929]

Vectan data shows the following 20ga 7/8 oz loads:

Hull - Rem
primer - R209
wad - WAA20
powder - A0 16.0 gr
1200 fps @ 10,000 psi

Hull - WAA-HS
primer - W209
wad - WAA20
powder - A0 15.8 gr
1200 fps @ 10,700 psi

These recipes look similar to what is shown for Universal powder, but A0 must be a bulkier powder because Vectan shows a MEC 33 bushing throws 21.8 grains of A0, while Hodgdon shows that a 33 bushing throws 25.2 grains of Universal. A0 must also be bulkier than Unique as Alliant shows a 33 bushing throws 22.5 grains.

Is anyone out there loading either of these listed loads and shooting it in tubes? If so, how is the fit and what kind of crimps are you getting with the WAA20 wad which is probably the tallest 20 7/8 oz wad out there. What is your general impression of the target breaking performance?

Hello, forum and hello, tractorboy. First posting here for me. I, too, am wanting to reload 20ga 7/8 oz loads for sporting clays and skeet purposes, targeting 1200 fps. It has been a while since I reloaded and I'd always used Hodgdon International Clays but it's no longer available. I've read a lot of good information about Vectan and everything you noted above is the way I'm leaning. The only outstanding questions are which size MEC bushing did you use and which wad? The Vectan chart I saw (and which you likely saw, too) *starts* at bushing 33 dropping 21.8 grains of A0 but it does not show any lesser charge sizes. The recipes you noted show less powder than that so I'm wondering where you ended up on the MEC bushing. Your feedback (or anyone else's feedback using WAA-HS hulls) would be MOST appreciated! Thanks!

 

[TerryS]

Hodgdon International is still made and available. Powder Valley has some. I use Hornady bushings and 16.0 grains of AO takes a .395 powder bushing which is about a MEC 25, I believe. At least it's a starting place.

 

[birdk9]

I have not used Vectan AO powder but I have used Vectan AS and Vectan A1. I use a MEC 9000 with a universal charge bar.
Vectan AS has almost the exact same setting as Clays, and Vectan A1 is almost the exact setting as Green Dot. Within .2 grains of powder.
Volume wise, the AS and A1 are a match with the volumes achieved with Clays and Green Dot.
It would not surprise me if the AO powder was a match for another power, volume wise. The weights will be different but the volume will be the same.
Set up for the old powder you had previously used and see what weight it drops for the AO powder. I would bet you are going to be really close to what is called out.
Just my experience with the AS, A1 and Clays, Green Dot loads I have made.

Good luck, shoot well, stay well