I owned an ultra carry and it outshot many 2,000 dollar target pistols with its short barrel and fixed sights. I could put 4 rounds in a silver dollar every time at 25 yards and I am no pistelero. Good shots could do better. Like any good trapshooter, I sold it. One of my very few regrets. Jeff
dsid, being in Ohio and a trapshooter, I'm sure that you have seen Jaquas web site or their store. They have a couple listed on thier site. They have a Pro Carry II used for $675 which I feel is about right. Another nice place if you want a new in Ohio is Sportsmen's Den in Shelby, Ohio. These guys seem to really low ball the new guns that they have in stock. I think Kimbers are great and about the time I have enough saved for one I buy another trap gun.