Tom, go to wwwMecreloaders.com and find out what they are selling for new and what each loader does. If your not a high volume shooter (sounds like your not) a 600 jr. or a sizemaster is the way to go. You can still make 6-8 boxes a hour. I like the sizemaster as it resizes the brass better and with less effort, but the 600 jr will work well too. I'd take off 25% for a used loader in very good condition and take off more as the loader is older or missing parts. Next if possible you will want to reload the Rem. STS hulls or the Win. AA HS hulls pick just one of these. If you have to go out and buy l-5 cases new in your local store and get the 2 dollar a box discount that may still be going on. Don't try to reload metal base hulls for a tube set. You will want to stick to brass only. You will be hard pressed to find hulls on the ground for the two small guns so buying hulls on this site or buying new shells are your only choice to get hulls to load. Best of Luck in shooting the 28. It is my favorite ga. to shoot. Break-em all. Jeff