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I still reload lots of Federal paper, have tried the 'replacement wad' recommended (Red 8), but it a little too high for 1 1/8 oz. loads. Would be interesed in purchasing any 12C1 wads, they are hard to find since Federal quit mfg. them. Let me know.

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I was talking to the Alliant Powder rep at the North Carolina State shoot this year and he suggested using the 12C3 wad in the Federal Paper Champion hull. I have quite a few but I have not tried this wad. I use the replacements with good results.
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Face it, you are not going to find any C1 wads unless you are very lucky. the last ones I heard about were in Toronto someplace last winter.

I would as stated here use the 12S3. Genuine Federal. I think the factory loads use it now. 12C1 just got too expensive to make.

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Why are you using a Red 8.

I would recommend that you use a 12S3 that is what Federal use to list as a replacement wad for papers besides the 12C1.

Good luck on finding 12C1s since you are probably aware of they don't make them anymore.
 

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Actually the 12S3 is about the same height as the Red 8 and its a tight fit for 1 1/8 oz, so I don't know how Federal crams it all in there. But most reloading manuals list the good old WAA12 as a suitable wad for papers with 1 1/8 oz, and I have found that they work quite well. I know those wads are for tapered hulls and all that, but they have a deep enough gas cup that they seem to seal quite well in the papers.

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I have used thousands of red 8's and have no trouble. I save the last 5000 12c's I have for game shooting with 22.5 grains of green dot. Jeff
 

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I bought 30,000 12C1s just before they disappeared from the market. I think that I'll leave whatever I don't use up, to my grandson, in my will.

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Try loading 18.5 grains of 700X with the ClayBuster Red 8 wad and 1 1/8 oz of shot. 700X is very dense and takes up less space in the hull than most other powders. Works great.
 
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