Wisconsin All State Team
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Sure doesn't say a whole lot of info on averages. Scott
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Jack. We are the closest State shoot to you. Stop on by. I can't remember what you drink but I usually have a little Woodford Reserve bourbon in the truck and I'm sure I can find some ice.
Oh and bring some friends.
As for me getting bashed you haven't been paying attention. You missed a couple.
Don
Oh and bring some friends.
As for me getting bashed you haven't been paying attention. You missed a couple.
Don
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Part of looking at the All State Team is seeing averages and then comparing yourself to your states best of the best. Only one word for not posting averages - laziness.
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See what you started Jack.
Brad you need to talk to the person that does that and that is not me. Call your ATA delegate. Like most of the BOD he doesn't read this garbage. By posting your bithches here he never hears about it. And I won't pass it on either. Talk about laziness. Why is it that a few that like to piss and moan here have never talked to the correct person or director. Or picked up the phone and called a director. And I am not talking about you because you have actually talked to me once or twice and have emailed me. But what about the regular five or six that do nothing but bitch. Because it is easier to whine here on BS.com than to actually get grow a pair and talk to a director face to face.
Brad you need to talk to the person that does that and that is not me. Call your ATA delegate. Like most of the BOD he doesn't read this garbage. By posting your bithches here he never hears about it. And I won't pass it on either. Talk about laziness. Why is it that a few that like to piss and moan here have never talked to the correct person or director. Or picked up the phone and called a director. And I am not talking about you because you have actually talked to me once or twice and have emailed me. But what about the regular five or six that do nothing but bitch. Because it is easier to whine here on BS.com than to actually get grow a pair and talk to a director face to face.
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I know you are not responsible Don, I just gave my opinion on the fact no averages are listed. You just happened to start the thread.
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C'mon guys, does the All State average's denote anything of value other than for the Men's and Women's teams top shooters that conform to the participation requirements set by the All State committee? It's not a comparison of the "Best of the Best" as Brad indicates....but rather the best of those that adhered to the strict requirements to be considered for the honor. Wisconsin, much like Minnesota and probably many other states, has a minimum number of in-state clubs a shooter must participate at as well as shooting the championship events at the Zone Shoot and State Shoot before being remotely elegible for nomination. There are some All American shooters that can't even make their State Team because of the minimum requirements. Meeting those minimums is, of course, left up to the individuals. Good, bad or indifferent, that's how the system is set up. Posting averages of those listed really is of no consequence and, in my opinion, of little to no value. Let the committee list what they want and we should congratulate those that take the effort to make the teams.
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And Brad I won't make that mistake again. Then I will get bitched at for not getting information out. So what am supposed to do. You can see how this thead is going. Now it is turning into something about Ohio.
Gapper. For the last several years now it is strictly based on averages. Years ago it was more political. You could have had one of the top 5 averages and still not make the State team. So it was changed I would say around 15 years ago.
Gapper. For the last several years now it is strictly based on averages. Years ago it was more political. You could have had one of the top 5 averages and still not make the State team. So it was changed I would say around 15 years ago.
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How is the High Average award factored? It appears Demulling has a higher HDCP average than Denman. Can you only have 1 high avg per person?
I have to agree with Swampjohn the requirements are strict. I read them on the witrapshooters site and it really isnt clear to me how all the stats apply.
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I have to agree with Swampjohn the requirements are strict. I read them on the witrapshooters site and it really isnt clear to me how all the stats apply.
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Redscare. The high average awards are based totally on the INSTATE tagets shot. The min. instate listed on the Wisconsin web site are totally for the high average awards. So by looking at the ATA site average does nothing for the high average. You have to look at targets shot in state only. And even then you won't see them all because Reg. Leagues don't show up there.
If you would like a better explination of the State Team Requirements you can either call me or Rick Tesker who handles the picking of the teams and high average awards.
If you would like a better explination of the State Team Requirements you can either call me or Rick Tesker who handles the picking of the teams and high average awards.
Don perhaps it would be a better Idea to post the requirements early in the year on the Bog and also send them with the calendar so that way everyone would be aware of the requirements. That might be a better idea that asking everyone to call with questions. Tom
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