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I am selling some hulls to help out a friend. How do you tell the difference between old and new winchester hulls both grey and red? I never load these so I am in the blind here. I want to be able to properly describe what I am selling
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Linked, just look for the box around the AA.

Tim
Lou, all of the new AA's since 2001 will have the separate plastic base wad in the hull. You can see it with a flashlight from the outside or inside, or slip your pinky finger in there. The first generation AA's did NOT have HS stamped on the head-stamp. All the new ones from about 2003-04 HAVE HS stamped on the head stamp. PM me if you want, I got pics of all of them.

Wayne
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Tim
Nobody wants the new hull, Not desirable anyway. Good Luck !!

Joe Woods/Ontario
New hulls load just fine. Slice one open and see if you can remove the base wad. Bet you can't. HMB
Some of the new AAs have the box around he AA so that is not a reliable way to tell the difference. On the grays, the old style are more of a silver while the new style are much darker in color, more of a charcoal. On the red ones, the old style have sort of a dull finish while the new style have a shiny finish to them, very distinctive and the best way to separate them when mixed. The grays also display the dull/shiny finish distinction, in addition to the markedly darker of the new style.

The loading recipes are generally the same. The new style have a slightly smaller internal capacity and you need to be careful with the height of your components. In the new style, a slightly shorter wad is needed to prevent the hull from buckling on the final crimp. If you are going to load 1 oz of shot, consider using a 1 1/8 oz wad. Or, Downrange makes wads specially designed for the new AA wads that have a slightly shorter cushion section. I was going crazy trying to load the HS hulls with standard AA wads. My sanity came back when a switched to the slightly shorter Downrange wads.
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