If they are new primed Fiocchi hulls I would imagine they will have Fiocchi primers. Fiocchi primers tend to be a littlle oversize,slightly larger than say Winchester.

 

If you are already loading other hulls with a 6 point crimp, I would stick with that.
All my 16 gauge are 6 point crimp.
Those CB wads will be a loose fit.
I use Z16 and SG16 wad from BPI
in Cheddite and Fiocchi hulls.

 

Two generous Trapshooter forum gents sent me a care package with some mixed head stamp hulls so I have some that are 8 and some that are 6 point. If there is no difference I thought I would go with an 8 point crimp. My question might be does an 8 point work the case mouth more than a 6 point and, therefore, cause greater hull deterioration or is there no discernment difference ?

And, in researching loads for the 16 ga, I don’t see the Fiochi hull listed. Is there an equivalent hull in a Winchester, Remington, etc regarding case capacity and interior ?

 

Primer is either 615 or 616.

What are you wanting for a load?

Where did you obtain those hulls?

I wouldn't use those wads in a Fiocchi case.

Thought we'd told you join 16ga.com. A wealth of recipes.

You can also order The 16ga manual from BP.

 

Load goal - 1175-1200 fps

Got the hulls mail order from Grafs

CB wads not good in Fiochi hulls because. . . . . . . . ?

I tried to join the 16 ga forum and it wouldn’t let me. Said no new members ! 🤔

BP - Ballistic Products ?

The manual is out of stock.

 

As two above me have stated, the wads you have are to small of diameter at base to provide a good deal. Maybe in warm weather with larger flaked powders you will be able to use them but about your only powder that I can think of off hand is maybe 800X that possibly will create acceptable loads in cooler weather.

If you purchased the hulls from Graf and Son they would be the ones to correctly tell you which primer (615 or 616) is in the hulls. It's one or the other.

Also Fiocchi hulls have a prevalent habit of sticking in my 16ga model 12's and others I have owned. Have had the chambers slicked up and didn't seem to help much. But if just shooting trap that won't matter to you I guess. They also don't seem to last very long. A time or two.

Don't have a clue what's up at 16ga.com. I'd send an email request telling them.

I see someone else but a link to Ballistic Products downloadable 16ga manual. It will benefit you greatly.

 

Those hulls are a use once and pitch hull so don't worry about which primer to use. When you fire them the plastic just in front of the brass/steel weakens and the second loading attempt usually results in the hull bulging when you crimp it. As far as 6 or 8 segment crimp the 8 takes up more room internally for smaller pellets and the 6 is for the larger pellets.

Your best bet would be to buy new Federal shells they are the best of what's still available in 16 ga. PM me if you have any questions.

 

I’ve done some searching for Federal shells without any success unless I want $30 a box hunting loads with steel shot. As always, I seem to have pickEd the worst time to get into 16 ga ownership and ammo needs. 🙄 Never thought I would have this much trouble finding hulls or shells. 🤞for a better 2021 !

 

Download The Sixteen Gauge Manual, 10th ed.-ballisticproducts.com

 

The smaller diameter seal of the CB wad will allow powder migration in the large diameter Fiocchi.
The poor seal can lead to bloopers, incomplete combustion of the powder.

 

You can see a lot of threads with loads on 16ga.com without joining.
Another huge source of loads - the old Yahoo group spreadsheet, now on 24hr Campfire website. You need to sign up to view the spreadsheets, but that is painless.
There are plentiful 16 gauge Fiocchi hull loads there.

 

I can get 4 or 5 loads out of Cheddite or Fiocchi hulls.
If you are crushing the hull on reloading, your reloader is not set correctly for your stack height. The steel base is rather flimsy on these Euro hulls. I have had some distort on removing fired primers.
The only current hulls that 16 gauge CB AA clone wads fit properly are Remington game hulls.
Wishing you a much better 2021, in all respects.

 

Interesting...Never seen the copper color rim on a Fiocchi primer, always been all silver in color for me. Good luck with your reloads, I'd run whichever crimp came out the best.

 

I shoot my Browning Grand Lighting 16ga with Federals, DR16's, IMR 700-X and Win 209's - but ALL my 16 ga hulls have a 6 point crimp

 

The primers look like nobel sports by color