My early production 8567 had metal dies, and the crimp starter was the metal die with the brass insert for 6 or 8 fold hulls. I actually replaced it with the black plastic crimp starter that did a great job. My buddy has that press now and I am using a 761 that works just fine. One day I'll have to set them side by side, but from here I do not remember much difference. I cannot verify the handles, as both have been replaced with a 6 inch longer pipe with a thick foam grip that I like for leverage. They are both good, long lasting presses.