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VOTE NO ON PROPOSITION 63


By Kim Rhode

Proposition 63, if passed by the voters in November, will fundamentally change how law abiding citizens can purchase and transport ammunition in the State of California. In my opinion, based on 27 years of shooting almost every day, this measure will only serve to make California residents less safe. If you think it will end with California, think again.


Proposition 63, effective January 1, 2018 will require all ammunition sales (with few exceptions) to be conducted through an “ammunition vendor.” This means you cannot sell any ammunition to your neighbor or sibling unless a licensed ammunition vendor performs the transfer. And, if you want to sell more than 500 rounds in a 30-day period, you must become a licensed ammunition vendor. These transactions must be done face-to-face, no mail order.


Proposition 63, requires a background check to purchase ammunition. You will have to pay a fee of up to $50 and wait up to 30 days every four years for your application to purchase ammunition to be processed. Then each time you purchase ammunition, the vendor will have to verify that you are who you say you are, and that you have the proper authorization in the state’s system.


Proposition 63 requires you to provide the vendor personal information each time you purchase ammunition, that will be recorded/registered by the California Department of Justice indefinitely. One scary thought, is this opens the door for more identify theft and computer hacking.


Proposition 63 does not allow residents of California to bring ammunition obtain from out of the State back into California. So if you drive to a competition in Arizona and order several cases of ammo but don’t shoot it all, you cannot bring the remainder back into the State. Interestingly, it does not apply to non-residents of California??? So, non-residents have no restrictions on bringing ammunition into California and they can sell to California residents if they go through a licensed vendor. Out-of-state terrorists, drug dealers, gang members and convicted felons can bring ammunition into California all they want. Who’s to oversee how much they bring into the State and how it is used? This tells you how fundamentally twisted this Proposition really is. It will cause the police and the State to divert resources to monitor law-abiding citizens that are not causing any problems but does nothing to stop criminals.


As you can see, Prop 63 is a very bad piece of legislation that Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom wants you to believe, will keep guns and ammunition out of the wrong hands. The only problem is that buried in Proposition 63’s 34 pages of fine print are oppressive restrictions on the purchase and transporting of ammunition by all people. Proposition 63 will do nothing to stop criminals from having guns and ammunition, and will be very costly to law abiding citizens who want or need to purchase ammunition for recreation, home defense and competition. Only bureaucrats would believe that criminals and terrorists would go through these hoops to buy ammunition. The enormous expense and time to enforce this proposition will fall on the taxpayers. Gavin Newsom couldn’t get us to give up our guns, so he’s trying to take away our ammunition.


The Constitution and Bill of Rights are the DNA of our country and our Second Amendment says we have the right to keep and bear arms and it shall not be infringed upon. It is what secures our freedoms and makes our country special. Politicians like Gavin Newsom should not be infringing on those rights. This Proposition is a WHOPPER of an “infringement” on our Constitutional Rights.


Proposition 63 has two main focuses; one to initiate background checks before purchasing ammunition and second is to ban large capacity magazines. Both of these issues have already been addressed by recent legislation passed and signed by Governor Brown last month. But Gavin Newsom, who has his eye on being elected the next California Governor apparently thinks this will help him come election time.


Read your Voter Guide on Proposition 63 and you will see that this Proposition is opposed by law enforcement and they list “The California State Sheriffs’ Association, Association of Deputy District Attorneys for Los Angeles County, California Correctional Peace Officers Association, California Fish & Game Wardens’ Association, California Reserve Peace Officers Association, and numerous other law enforcement and civic groups, representing tens of thousands of public safety professionals throughout California,…” because it will divert their resources from real crimes to trying to enforce these laws on purchasing ammunition.


This Proposition will not make us more “safe” and will be a huge burden for competitive shooters and sportsmen. I don’t know of any range in the State that sells the type of shotgun ammunition that an International shotgun shooter, like myself, would shoot and if, by chance, someone had ammo, they do not stock nearly enough to train. How will the younger generations of competitive shooters be able to train and compete in their sports with these limits on resources?


What I’ve outlined here is just the “tip of the iceberg”. There are so many questions on what the different parts of the 34-page proposition mean that even lawyers are struggling to understand. We cannot let Proposition 63 pass at this November’s election. It is imperative that we defeat it because once passed it will be virtually impossible to repeal.



VOTE NO ON PROPOSITION 63

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Can't see how shooting sports survive in Ca. if this happens. And to think not that long ago the Ca. State Shoot was 900+ shooters for Championships.
 

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Isn't there a bunch of new gun grab laws going into effect on 1/1/2017?

I thought that was the REAL " assault weapon" ban and " high cap" mag ban date? Like if you possess them, you go to prison?
 

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Among those bills signed this year, the ban possession of 10+round capacity magazines in California is punishable by fractions of $100, $200, & $500 fines, not criminal laws. You can block the magazines to 10 round or sell it out of state. The final text of CADOJ interpretation is not available yet.

The so called Assault Weapon registration will require registration of non-fixed magazine semi auto centerfire rifle that has certain features like pistol grip, collapsable stock etc. similar to the law in NY.
Therefore, original configuration MINI 14, M1A would not require to register.
As of now, the final text of CADOJ interpretation is not available yet, but based on previously understood wordings, this will not be an assault rifle:

Non-pistol grip, pinned fixed stock.
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