[Randyflycaster]

Now that I have a DT11 I can say the technology does reduce recoil, about as much as my Graco recoil reducer (which I have on my 687).

Randy

 

[hbar314]

Beretta had to stop innovating after they brought out the DT11 Stellium Super Pro Plus barrels because the guns were traveling forward due to recoil.

 

[Randyflycaster]

I have never heard this anywhere. So many top shooters liv

Beretta had to stop innovating after they brought out the DT11 Stellium Super Pro Plus barrels because the guns were traveling forward due to recoil.

Beretta had to stop innovating after they brought out the DT11 Stellium Super Pro Plus barrels because the guns were traveling forward due to recoil.
[/QUOTi never heard this anywhere. So many top shooters love their DT11s. Can you back up your comments with hard evidence or testimony?

 

[Pull & Mark]

The 694 has the Steelium made Barrels as well. So, The DT-11 is not the only O/U shotgun that Beretta uses the Steelium Barrels on. I expect Beretta used the new metal alloy in the Steelium Barrels for ease of manufacture. More notably, to lower their cost of manufacture that is. They just advertised they are better made barrels as a sales ploy is all? break em all Jeff

 

[JBrooks]

Now that I have a DT11 I can say the technology does reduce recoil, about as much as my Graco recoil reducer (which I have on my 687).

Hmmmm what is the weight of each of those?

 

[Randyflycaster]

The 694 has the Steelium made Barrels as well. So, The DT-11 is not the only O/U shotgun that Beretta uses the Steelium Barrels on. I expect Beretta used the new metal alloy in the Steelium Barrels for ease of manufacture. More notably, to lower their cost of manufacture that is. They just advertised they are better made barrels as a sales ploy is all? break em all Jeff

Nonsense. Where is your evidence?

 

[Hugh 3200]

Hogwash. Show us the patterns. At the end of the day shot deformation is overwhelming caused at the instant of ignition when the force of acceleration slams pellets on top of each other into the back of the wad. That occurs before traveling down the barrel. Barrel construction and diameter is of no physical consequence at that point. Pellets remain squashed and essentially interlocked within the wad due to significant "G" force until leaving the barrel. "Wrapped" in plastic, compressed shot has the same insulated interaction with the barrel walls regardless of the length of a forcing cone or the interior diameter of the tube. Wads with the fully contained mass of compressed shot exit the choke at the same interior diameter of the choke every time with the pattern ballistically forming from that point forward. Attention Beretta: the overwhelming force of acceleration causing deformed shot is rearward. Movement of pellets to the sides of the wad is caused by compression and will be the same regardless of barrel construction.

Steelium-schmeelium.

 

[Randyflycaster]

Have you shot a DT11? I bet not. So Beretta, which has been making fine firearms for centuries, is risking its reputation and lying to us? Somehow I do not think so.
Randy

 

[JBrooks]

Have you shot a DT11? I bet not. So Beretta, which has been making fine firearms for centuries, is risking its reputation and lying to us? Somehow I do not think so.
Randy

 

[Trapfirst!]

One born every minute……

 

[BadaBing11]

I have shot a dt11 a few years ago. It was without question the softest shooting o/u I have ever shot .

 

[Randyflycaster]

And I like golf so I really must be an idiot, just ask Mr. Brooks. He is the smartest person on this board, certainly smarter than all the engineers at Beretta. And BTW, did you know that trap houses can be all different heights, and that folks who hold their guns on the top of trap houses are also idiots who probably love golf?

Randy

 

[Schnurb]

I shoot a 32” DT11 sporter with a Cole custom stock. I like it a lot.

Anything about the barrels’ forcing cones, patterns, recoil reduction, etc is above my pay grade. Here is what Beretta’s STEELIUM PRO barrels mean to me—I like how the lighter barrels (1.540 KG) feel when combined with the receiver. Zoli sporters and some Perazzis feel a little barrel heavy to me now. I don’t miss my 32” K-80 sporter barrels. As we all know, feel is very personal and I believe largely dictated by what we are used to. If Mr. Rich likes how Beretta makes the barrels with the hammer forging and whatever else that is a nice plus. He is an absolute treasure.

My country logic thinks maybe the aforementioned beefy and heavy receiver might have something to do with a perceived softer shooting gun, I don’t know.

Now I guarantee that my friends have heard plenty about STEELIUM barrel technology, Optima HP chokes, #1ChoiceOfChampions, #BerettaIsBetter, #500YearsOnePassion, and the exploits of Kim Rhode, Vince Hancock, Austen Smith, Caitlin Connor, random foreign ISSF shooters, Anthony Matarese, Todd Hitch, Zach Kienbaum, Eric Harvey, Connor Daniel, and the great Leo Harrison. When it is said and done, this time with friends and good natured joking will mean much more than any gun or scores.

 

[Trapfirst!]

Now that I have a DT11 I can say the technology does reduce recoil, about as much as my Graco recoil reducer (which I have on my 687).

Randy

Sorry, not buying it.

 

[JBrooks]

And I like golf so I really must be an idiot, just ask Mr. Brooks

Liking golf is not what qualifies anyone as an idiot. I developed golf courses, have played on some of the best and most exclusive courses in the country and walked a Nicklaus designed course with Jack and his clients. So, I have no idea where you came up with this golf nonsense.

As for holding on the top of the house, everyone should do what works best for them. If they don't, then they are idiots. If they don't try different things until they find what works for them, then they are lazy.

You still haven't answered my question about what your two Berettas weigh.

 

[Garry]

Randy, why are the barrels on the Beretta premium guns like the SO5 still constructed of cold-hammer forged Boehler Antinit steel instead of STEELIUM ? Beretta says they use Boehler Antinit steel to ensure perfect alignment of the tubes, exceptional strength and long-lasting corrosion resistance. They are carefully tested and checked for ballistic performance and consistency of shot pattern.

 

[frylarr78]

That vid was pretty much an advertisement for Berretta.
Some truths, some semi-truths, some imaginative use of words, some claims that can be neither proven nor disproven and can be categorized as BS.

Too bad; Beretta doesn't need to embellish the truth or put spins on their guns.

 

[Drew Hause]

Few current makers are willing to share the composition of their barrels.
Beretta "Steelium/Excelsior HSA Steel" is "proprietary tri-ally steel (Ni/CR/MO) (that) goes through a unique manufacturing process. Deep hole drilling cold hammer forging and vacuum distension create the very best ballistic performance available".
Champion Firearms | Beretta 692 Plus Sporting 30'' Steelium Barrels 12-Gauge

"Steelium Plus" is the same stuff with a 14" forcing cone

AISI 8620 is a chromium, molybdenum, nickel alloy steel often used for modern double shotgun frames and likely on some high $ barrels, and may be what "Steelium" is
Carbon - .18 - .23%
Manganese - 0.7 - 0.9%
Chromium - 0.4 - 0.6%
Molybdenum - 0.15 - 0.25%
Nickel - 0.4 - 0.7%

AFAIK there have been no additions to the Periodic Table since nihonium (Nh), moscovium (Mc), tennessine (Ts), and oganesson (Og), and in the words of Tim, the sage of trapshooters.com "There is no magic."

 

[hbar314]

AFAIK there have been no additions to the Periodic Table since nihonium (Nh), moscovium (Mc), tennessine (Ts), and oganesson (Og),...

Beretta continues their push into discovering new elements for future barrels. In the annual shareholder meeting Beretta talked that most of their employees are working in the organic chemistry and advanced physics departments working towards that new elements. The Beretta advanced high energy collider is coming online in early 2024 to further these advancements.

 

[Trapfirst!]

Beretta continues their push into discovering new elements for future barrels. In the annual shareholder meeting Beretta talked that most of their employees are working in the organic chemistry and advanced physics departments working towards that new elements. The Beretta advanced high energy collider is coming online in early 2024 to further these advancements.

😂👍🏻which of course will reduce real AND felt recoil, deliver perfect patterns, and quite possibly make up for shooter deficiencies, also including lack of effort actually shooting on the range.