They know where their guns shoot. Most likely all of them have the same POI.
Steve

 

Completely agree-
I began shooting a Beretta A400 this year for trap, with the adjustable rib & comb can put the poi right where I want it.
Now that it’s hunting season I’m finding it difficult to adjust back to my Benelli SBEII since I have to consciously switch my point of aim back to that gun.

 

I don't! You are not alone. If on the rare ocassion I shoot SC, I use a different (flatter shooting) shotgun and it takes a few shots to get used to the feel and impact. The Brain is a wonderful mechanism that picks up on the differences pretty quickly. So what if I break 65 at SC? It is only for fun.

A lot of variables to contend with. Some folks are built such that a "standard" stock fits them pretty well. And they may just shoot instinctively with a gun that shoots relatively flat. They have great eye-hand coordination. Some (self) have a lot of adjustments due to physical build and style. If I shoot a 'standard' stock, I have to scrunch my head down and my neck won't take it well. Heads-up is the only way I can stay in this game so my stock looks like a crooked trunk from a cedar tree. I envy those who have the physique to use standard dimensioned stocks.

If your trap gun is set up for Trap (rising targets) and you try to shoot it at SC, on dropping targets you have to get way below them. Vice Versa, if you try to shoot Trap with your SC gun (probably set up for a lower POI) the opposite happens.

Scott Hanes

 

If they are there own guns they’re switching back and forth with, it’s because they are each setup for them themselves to shoot and they no where they shoot.

It sounds like you’ve never setup your sporting clays gun and thus it’s totally different than your trap gun.
So if your trap gun is capable of two shots, why not just use it for sporting clays?
I use a trap configured gun to shoot sporting with.

 

It's not a trick, they're that good.

 

I'm in your category BL1, I'm currently trying to get my new CX dialed in. I don't shoot all disciplines alot (mainly shoot trap), but I want 1 gun that I use for everything.

 

There was a fellow at the old Winchester club in Ohio that could shoot any gun from his hip, if some one complained about a rental gun from there he would walk over and shoot it from the hip and not miss a bird, he would hand the gun back to the shooter and say "Nothing wrong with the gun"

 

I currently have four guns I use for clay sports. All of them have adjustable combs and three have adjustable ribs. All have been set up with the same POI. A number of years ago I bought a Beretta 391 that was miserable on the first couple rounds of trap after switching from my other trap gun. While I loved how the gun shot, i finally got fed up with it and on a drive up to Maine stopped in at Cole’s to trade it on something more useful. After a short explanation as to why I wanted to part with it, they had me mount it and then took the gun in the back, swapped out the butt shim and brought it back. This time it mounted just right. And when I got it home it there was no difference when I swapped it with my DT-10. Moral of the story that’s kind of like the secret to Real Estate, it’s Fit, Fit, Fit.

 

For sure there are some great shooters that can shoot just about anything. It requires a lot of body control, especially with significant weight differences in the gun. For your self, it sounds like maybe adding a bit of weight to you SC gun might help you transition quicker. Especially if your out running the bird mostly.

 

I shoot my trap gun for pretty much everything, SC’s, 5 stand, etc. On the rare occasion I use something different, I continue to remind Myself to cover the target (field guns). When I no longer see it, I pull the trigger. I’ve actually had some success with this process.
I can’t say I’ve got any tricks other than a reasonably quick learning curve.
Bob

 

If you're going to purchase and shoot different guns (o/u,sxs,sa, and pumps) make sure the drop dimensions and length of pulls are similar. Nothing will be exactly the same as well as barrel length, beads, or chokes for that matter. Avoid guns that have a drop that is too low, better to see some rib than none at all. Each gun will shoot differently you may be right on the clay or you might have to float the clay a little or alot. Depending on the weight and balance of the gun, you might have to slow down or speed up your swing as well. Eventually you will instinctively shoot each gun the same.

 

All you really need to know is where the POI is for each gun, then it's no problem to transition.

 

Ya Gota switch once or twice a month then you can shoot a pipe an a firecracker

 

My Trap and Skeet / Sporting Clays gun are set up with the save LoP and PoI

Trap is a 32" Beretta 694 Sporting Skeet and Sporting Clays gun is a 30" Beretta 686 Onyx Pro Sporting

 

There's no trick, you either can or can't. It can be acquired with time, but some will never be able to do it. Just like anything else.

Having the ability and skill to self analyze and make adjustments is a large part of it, this gun is a little heavier/lighter, the comb is a little higher/lower, so I can make this, this, and this tweak and do OK. AAA shooters will be able to adapt on the fly much better than lower class shooters.

I can pick up most any gun and shoot it halfway competently. A majority of people can't.

 

As others have said, some people have it, some people don’t, some in between.

If you take it to the patterning board, most experienced shooters can shoot it pretty well off the bat

Just taking a gun off the rack and shooting it well immediately, thats hard to do for a lot of people

 

I think the point made above about POI is the key. I'd wager that some guys who have high POI's for trap have a more difficult time making the transition?

 

One question, unless it's a single barrel gun, have you shot your trap gun at sporting? Briefly in college I shot a couple different guns in different disciplines. My scores went up significantly when I just settled on one gun.

Also you may just be like me and enjoy shooting different guns. If that is the case then getting them to have similar poi, as others have said, is key. I even have my hunting shotguns set up similar to my sporting guns. Just my 2 cents!

 

I have a K-80 for trap , but with the way it’s set up I don’t think it’ll work very well for SC. I shoot low gun so I’d never be able to mount it quick enough for SC. I use a 725 sporting that has the same POI as the K-80 but it’s a completely different animal than the Krieghoff. I’m contemplating getting another K-80 for SC to try and keep things a little more consistent but I’m having a hard time justifying the price of the Krieghoff for the amount of SC that I shoot.

 

This is were you have to gather up the guns you use for the different disciplines for clays and head for the pattern board. Make the needed adjustments so that your patterns are somewhat consistent with each gun. Should solve your issues.

 

You're going to need to make your SC gun weigh, balance, and swing relatively close to your regular gun for any success. Weight is a little negotiable, balance and swing will be more important.

725s are quite light (sub 8lb), but pretty barrel heavy. About 60 nickels in the stock bolt hole balanced the one I had on the hinge and brought it to 8.5lb.

Your Krieghoff trap gun definitely weighs more than that, so you're probably going to have to add some more weight than that.

 

"So how do you guys jump back and forth from gun to gun and never miss a beat?"

I chose the Remington 1187 and 1100 as a basic platform. Trap, sporting clays, upland, turkey, deer, coyotes, etc. A big issue was different POA/POI for each. Solution was to go with raised comb stocks for all of them, including the 20ga guns. Except for the rifle sighted turkey barrels and slug barrels, it doesn't matter which gun I use. They all shoot to the same point. There are some weight differences. Obviously the 20ga gun weighs less than the field or trap guns. So I have to deliberately slow down with it for trap. But it's nice and lively for sporting clays and upland.

 

I sometimes shoot multiple guns in the same day. I know the feel of each gun and shoot them all regularly. Every once in awhile I shoit only my field guns. Since I don’t have a skeet field near me I am kind of forced to do this.

The one thing I do to make a smooth transfer is do a little dry firing to night before. Do you normal routine, mount the gun, find a point, do your call, and pretend a target is a n flight and pull the trigger. U do this maybe 10 times with each gun.

The day of shooting I make sure once I field to my post I do a couple quick mounts and make sure I am lined up for that first shot.

 

It’s more than just knowing where the point of impact is, but if I pick up someone else’s gun, I tend to just go back to basics. Stance, lean forward, head down, follow through. I’m just not smart enough to do all those things with my own gun🤣

 

I shoot an MX 2000 for sporting clays and a K 80 sporter with 20 gauge barrels for skeet.

It definitely takes a few shots to remember how to shoot it but generally, the fit and balance are all adjusted so that they’re relatively close even though there are different guns

 

Patterning the guns would be my first step. If the POI are about the same, its most likely a problem between your ears. If not, adjust the POI if possible and spend more time practicing with each gun before you need it to count.

 

You'd be able to pick up different guns and hit birds if you wanted to. Shoot more, with different guns.