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Had Wilkinson do my barrels and chokes. K-80 Trap Special with chokes tuned to match the barrel. Three chokes (.35, .25 and .15) at 33 yards (why 33?....it was as far back as I could get given where the board is and a fence. So I really was at the 'back fence'). I wish I still had the pictures from before the work, but do not. Yes, I shoot a high gun, that is not the issue...it is how even the patterns are. Before I had clumps and holes, not many strays now. Quite an improvement in my opinion. I am a believer. I would note that felt recoil is less than before. Will not discuss the cost.

Top picture on the left = .35
Top picture on the right = .25
Bottom picture on the left = .15
Bottom picture on the right = .35 left and .15 on the right. (Funny note, in this picture check out the big dent on the far left...someone shot the pattern board with a slug last year. This is half inch thick steel and it not only dented it but impressed the steel inward for 6" around the impact point)

Which of these patterns do you like best for say... singles then handicap? I'm at 27 yards. For me the .35 most likely for both singles and handicap. My brain registers smoke on a single better with what to do than a target just vaporizing or breaking into 5 pieces. For some I shoot with they want to play the percentages like baseball. Bigger pattern = higher singles scores. Any break is a dead bird. I would argue that wide patterns won't work as well at 27 yards.

Edit...this is 455 grains (shade over 1 oz.) of #8 shot with 19.4 grains of Green Dot in a Federal paper.
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I think you'll be shocked what the .25 will deliver you even from the 27.
Honestly I was surprised at how tight the .15 is at 33 yards....almost all of it inside of 30 inch circle.
 
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Looking good Fred! Not surprised at the patterns. You were hitting them hard when we shot a couple of weeks ago. My TM1 barrel came back from Tom at .037. Looking forward to seeing what she’ll do this spring!
Thanks! I think you will be hanging smoke Brad! I think you will be very pleased with it. It pops 'em hard.
 
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If you get serious you coumt pellets to get the pattern perscentage.
Then you would know how each choke performs.
TW usually test his work using this method.
He can answer your questions.
Yes, thanks. I have submitted the photos to Sai Chang at Grip Plus to do the analysis with his software program. Gonna post them when I get them back. He's in Florida at the S Grand so will be a week or so to get the results back.
 

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How is felt recoil measured as "less"? What does it cost to have this done?
It 'feels' less to me. After tens of thousands of rounds and using the same loads, and given sensitive to recoil, it feels less to me. That is a hot topic of contention on this forum. To me all that matters is how it feels to me.

For cost one would have to contact Tom. Cost is dependent on what you have and what you want to accomplish...and as such varies. Good work not cheap however.
 
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Trap Cat, I have a TM9X that has Wilkinson chokes also. I like you thought I
would shoot the 35th for everything (27yd). But after shooting the 25th on
Singles I really think it hits harder up front. I shoot the 35th on Handicap but
change for Singles. I don’t get caught up in the % in 30” circle I know what
I see when I center a target and that’s good enough for me. Good luck
 

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Trap Cat, I have a TM9X that has Wilkinson chokes also. I like you thought I
would shoot the 35th for everything (27yd). But after shooting the 25th on
Singles I really think it hits harder up front. I shoot the 35th on Handicap but
change for Singles. I don’t get caught up in the % in 30” circle I know what
I see when I center a target and that’s good enough for me. Good luck
You don't have to get "caught up" because Wilkinson uses % in a 30" circle to evaluate the performance of his work.
He didn't choke your gun by guessing.
 

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Trap Cat, I have a TM9X that has Wilkinson chokes also. I like you thought I
would shoot the 35th for everything (27yd). But after shooting the 25th on
Singles I really think it hits harder up front. I shoot the 35th on Handicap but
change for Singles. I don’t get caught up in the % in 30” circle I know what
I see when I center a target and that’s good enough for me. Good luck
Thanks! I will give it a try this next week in practice. You are the second person to note that, worth giving it a go.
 

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You don't have to get "caught up" because Wilkinson uses % in a 30" circle to evaluate the performance of his work.
He didn't choke your gun by guessing.
Not disputing that. Would be nice if for the money he provided one with that data at the time the barrel was returned. That would be useful. Had to see if for myself to make my decisions.
 

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