[smokintom]

Don't care. Don't play any options for singles. Now pass the popcorn please.

 

[WadHopper]

Won in the shoot off. Hundreds of targets later. Hope they're sponsored. Or rich. Might as well do away with the 19 yard line while we're at it.

Needs more salt.

 

[bossbasl]

"3-hole" target angle should never have been changed. If you believe the change to narrower angles has improved the sport, please explain the rationale. The 'ole saw about "too difficult to enforce the 3-hole rule" doesn't cut it. If it did, and 2-hole target setting improved the game, why not change to, say, 30 degree angle to improve the game even more?

 

[Ram Rod]

AAA shooters have no fear of any angle targets.
They misjudge the slight angles.

 

[PTDriver]

Surly there were far less 100s in today's wind..

 

[Abolt243]

Surly there were far less 100s in today's wind..

95 +\- from what I counted. Still a bunch!

 

[Rick Barker]

Making targets more difficult for AAA shooters will not make them easier for any classes lower than AAA. Going past 50 yards, returning the angles back to straightaways on 1 and 5 or raising the target height I do not see as unreasonable, but great shotgun pointers are still going to turn in better scores than not so great shotgun pointers.

 

[Abolt243]

Won in the shoot off. Hundreds of targets later. Hope they're sponsored. Or rich. Might as well do away with the 19 yard line while we're at it.

Needs more salt.

Suit yourself!!

 

[320090T]

Only 20 200 straights after todays 100. I shot on bank 26 and we had straight-a-ways from 1 and 5, that is a three holer.

 

[Birch1007]

And accomplish what? The AAA and AA shooters will still break more targets than B shooters. The only positive outcome is you might see less 100 straights from D class. 😀

 

[trapshootinkid25]

This really isn’t any better than 15 years ago. 2005 in vandalia there were 42 200s in the CTC. Why now? I’m all for increasing angles, but it won’t change much for 16s.

 

[John55]

The guys with little or no ability always want to make it harder for the guys and gals with lots of it. What they fail to comprehend is the simple fact that you can’t beat talent! Make it as hard as you please and the AAAs will still pound your butt. Always have and always will.

 

[JBrooks]

Same old nonsense.

1. The best shooters in the country show up for the Grand. Only 3% of all shooters have ever broken a 200 straight. All harder targets would do is screw up the 97%.

2. No one ever wins the HAA or HOA shooting 200 straight singles, but they certainly lose if they don't.

3. AA and AAA are not going to miss the hard angles because of a 5 degree increase.

In the history of this discussion, I don't recall many AAA shooters thinking 3 hole targets would "fix" anything but run off a lot of D shooters and make a lot of C shooters D shooters and a lot of B shooters C shooters.

 

[Abolt243]

I may have to fix another popper full of corn!!

 

[AusAmateur]

Interesting thread, given that the very first time 125 targets has been offered for women at the Olympics, 125 straight were broken by the eventual winner.

Now, I know theses are "2 shot" targets rather than singles, but if the ladies are breaking 120+/125 targets at random heights, up to 45 degrees and 76 metres in distance, using 24 g (7/8), is adding a few degrees either side of ATA targets going to make much difference?

I know that in single barrel events down here, on what you guys call 3 hole targets (22.5 degrees either side of centre) 24/25 or 49/50 won't win, and that's with 1 oz loads. Ask me how I know.

At our Nationals, results were

2019-you needed 100 straight to win

2018-same

2017-147 after shootoff

2016-142 after shootoff.

This is with 1 oz loads.

 

[Tron]

Trap shooters demand nerf ball targets. If you don’t provide them, they won’t shoot.

 

[AusAmateur]

Trap shooters demand nerf ball targets. If you don’t provide them, they won’t shoot.

The TrollMeister makes a good point.

Change angles and lose shooters?

 

[pipelinen]

114 -100 straights in yesterday’s first leg of the NRA Singles. 95 or so 100’s in today’s segment. 24-200’s in the entire program. 16-100’s in today’s doubles. Is it time to increase angles on the targets and make them a little more difficult? Not go back to “3 hole”, but perhaps a little wider and add a little speed? Or are we satisfied with that many perfect scores? I’ll grab my popcorn.

Weren’t doubles postponed?

 

[Lore]

Modern guns and shells with lots of practice are always going to supply great shooters. Lengthly shootoff’s can be avoided with leg raslin and whiskey drinkin or best cowboy poetry recitals deciding the top dog. Maybe hatchet throwing.