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Let me see if I understand you-Hap-Mec-Tweaks--The Silver Dollar,Sparta as well as the Cardinal Center throw targets that are not correct because their presentations show more target face than I can achieve. And furthermore the good target presentations are achieved by raising the "height"? (870)--Well not according to the people at Pat Trap.Before you mouth off here when you know not what you are talking about do some inquiring to get the real answers as I did today by making some phone calls to those that really know how to set angles and target heights accordingly.--Dennis Mastrolia.