[Phil Kiner]

This was not scientific/statisticallty valid but I think the results are interesting

I know I screwed up by somehow dropping the other as a choice but, having said that I think one thing is obvious and that is there is no single simple answer to whatever the problems are that may or may not be.

 

[Auctioneer]

Will not come up.

 

[Patrick Haskins]

It's a shame you can't get it up!
Pat

 

[Old Cowboy]

Viagra?

 

[Phil Kiner]

This is the link for the first survey

Guess I did not need the viagra afterall

 

[RickN]

Certainly not many who feel the targets are too easy.

Judging by Mondays handicap scores, they might be too easy in Tucson. 3 - 100's and 5 - 99's yesterday. 13 - 98's & 18 - 97's.

 

[JAAS]

Monday Handicap in Tucson:
100's - 3 scores all 3 posted by 27 yarders,
99's - 5 scores 4 posted by 27 yarders,
98's - 13 scores 9 posted by 27 yarders.
Looks to me like the 27 yardline is no longer adequate as the backfence.

 

[likes-to-shoot]

Thanks for the opportunity to voice an opinion Phil.

Bill

 

[Auctioneer]

I feel section #2 is a little fishy. I feel the number are way off.

 

[Phil Kiner]

Auctioneer- I did not enter the numbers I only reported them

 

[1oldtimer]

JAAS:
The 27 yd line has been a farce for many years.
Clyde

 

[CharlieAMA]

Thanks for doing that Phil. Charlie

 

[JAAS]

Tuesday Handicap in Tucson: 98's - 3 scores all 3 posted by 27 yarders, 97's - 5 scores 3 posted by 27 yarders, 96's - 14 scores 10 posted by 27 yarders. A little more evidence that the 27 yardline is no longer adequate as the backfence.

 

[V10]

Considering that 1 in 3 shooters in the Tuesday Handicap was on the 27, it would be surprising if they didn't dominate the event.

As it was, the other yardages weren't far behind.

 

[stokinpls]

Any chance the survey with the 27 yard question can be laid out like surveymonkey's "1st Survey" so we don't have to decipher what all of that extra "data" means?

Also, what percentage of total membership do the number of responses represent?

Thanks in advance.


Bob Falfa

 

[JAAS]

V10,

Do you believe it is good for the sport that there is a larger and larger group of 27 yarders that dominate the handicaps and that they will continue to do so because they are not moved back to help level the playing field to help eliminate their dominance? Previous leadership of the ATA recognized this situation and extended the backfence when needed. Extending the backfence is way over due. Of the 204 27 yarders at Tucson, I am sure there are a lot of them that should be shooting at some yardage beyond the 27.

 

[oleolliedawg]

I haven't been preaching to a choir afterall!!

 

[V10]

I have no problem with moving the maximum yardage back beyond the 27.

I do think, though, that people will be surprised that it won't really "solve" anything. The 30 yard line, for example, really isn't much of a handicap to the best shooters.

Last year I sent a proposal to the EC for a "30-yard Challenge" fun event to be shot at each Satellite Grand. Unfortunately, they didn't approve it.

Maybe someday I'll get another chance to propose it.

 

[Hap MecTweaks]

V10 I sure hope you get that chance also!! No added difficulty in nearly 40 years doesn't look so promising though? Maybe the "T" ball mentality is here to stay?

Hap

 

[Setterman]

And they didn't shoot today....cause it snowed? What the hell do they think we do up North?

V-10, Propose it again.
It's kind of like passing a school levy. Eventually they give in.