[i_shoot]

Received this from a shooting buddy of mine today. Interesting read.



UPDATE: Status of The Gun Industry



Interesting status report from Valley Guns in West Virginia:



Status of gun industry



Attention F.B. fans: to follow will be several IMPORTANT Info updates about the status of the gun industry currently, followed by an INVENTORY UPDATE: We traveled to Texas for Industry meetings concerning the shortages, here's what we were told.



Smith & Wesson-is running at Full capacity making 300+ guns/day-mainly M&P pistols. They are unable to produce any more guns to help with the shortages.



RUGER: Plans to increase from 75% to 100% in the next 90 days.



FNH: Moving from 50% production to 75% by Feb 1st and 100% by March 1.



REMINGTON: Maxed out!



ARMALITE: Maxed out.



DPMS: Can't get enough parts to produce any more product.



COLT: Production runs increasing weekly...bottle necked by Bolt carrier's.



LWRC: Making only black guns, running at full capacity...can't get enough gun quality steel

to make barrels.



SPRINGFIELD ARMORY: Only company who can meet demand but are running 30-45 days behind.



AMMO: Every caliber is now Allocated! We are looking at a nation wide shortage of all calibers over the next 9 months. All plants are producing as much ammo as possible w/ of 1 BILLION rounds produced weekly. Most is military followed by L.E. and civilians are third in line.



MAGPUL is behind 1 MILLION mags, do not expect any large quantities of magpul anytime soon.



RELOADERS: ALL Remington, Winchester, CCI & Federal primers are going to ammo factory FIRST. There are no extra's for reloading purposes... it could be 6-9 months before things get caught up.



Sorry for the bleak news, but now we know what to expect in the coming months. Stay tuned, we'll keep you posted...





Related commentary from Bob Owens:



They didn’t know when they’d be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn’t come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn’t just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands,



M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin- Nagants—of which every gun store always seems to have 10-20—were gone.



So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I’ve never seen anything like it.



Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years was gone.


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[Catpower]

I read somewhere a Federal ammo rep said that if they got no more orders that they are 4 years behind on .22LR .223, .308, 9mm, .380, .40, and .45 rounds

Sounds like it might be a while before the prices come down if they ever did

When onumbnuts got elected I told my wife I was going to buy between $2-3,000 worth of ammo just for a hedge on inflation and just to be stocked up, but she thought I was over reacting so I just bought 12,500 rnds of ,22LR for $500, one of the best investments I have made

Except for 6,000 lbs of R22 refrigerant in 2007, and onumbnuts has also made that extremely high priced, if anybody has a leak on their A/C, they are really going to feel the pinch this year

If I sold the R22 right now I would get a 1000% return

 

[wolfram]

Sounds like complete panic on the civilian gun/ammo market.

I went to a local small time gun show on Friday and saw a few assorted 50 round boxes of plinker .22LR selling for $10 each. 9mm ball ammo was fetching $50 per box and there were buyers. Insane!

I thought I had enough ammo to weather the storm but now I'm rethinking my thrice weekly plinking sessions. Maybe time to get back into archery.

 

[JH]

wolfram,

HELLO.....HELLO....wake up and smell the PETUNIAS....Maryland, California and Massachusetts are proposing BIG TAXES on ammo and guns....

Their goal is to tax guns/ammo like cigarettes and marginalize shooting....

Ammo prices will NOT return as long as liberal Democrats control the government!

 

[MNGuns]

SteveT....while your post is in fact accurate and correct, it gives us little to get excited and panic about, much less fuel an afternoon worth of meaningless posting. Thanks.






: )

 

[RLC323]

Steve T makes a good point. A lot of this shortage is regional. Some places have nothing, some places have some things, other places have it all. Except .22 LR. nobody has much of that.

The .22LR deal is some sort of prepper thing, lots of ammo in a small space. Of course .22 has the shortest shelf life of any metallic, moisture really can mess it up in a hurry. I had a half box of stingers I left in the dash of our old sprayer truck for a few years. We sold the truck and I cleaned them out and went to shoot them and about half of them went pfffft.

I live in the center of three medium sized towns. One town to the north is a college town and only has two places that sell ammo, they have been out since January. The next town is the state capital many places to buy, but it is hit or miss on 9mm and .223. The third town has a population similar to the college town but several ammo sales places, they have never yet been out of 9mm when I was there shopping.

 

[RickN]

All these people buying shells are just buying to HAVE the shells, not use them. I think the market will get it's fill sooner than you think. I hope anyway.

 

[GunDr]

A local sporting goods/farmer supply store around here has a dozen Bushmasters and DPMSs, all under a grand this past Saturday. They told me they are getting between 6-15 guns a week and are only selling one to an individual, until the demand lessens.

These were the flat top ARs.