I thought that Downrange got the stuff from Pattern Control. I thought that they made them for a while but quit. They used to come in a bag with a bunch of different colors. Need to ask Downrange if they are planning on making them again. Since there is more plastic, I assume they would be higher in price.Pattern Control used to have a "POST WAD/SPREADER" with a post molded right into the wad. The post went in the shot drop tube without interference when you seat the wad. I used the last of mine up last year. I wonder if someone is making that kind of wad anymore?