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Why? NO. They need to get the extension signed to make the new lease 15 years as soon as possible.
 

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Good God, no.....

We've already got the finest shooting facility in the world. Lock it down for a ten year extension as soon as possible.

I trust the ATA board to look out for our best interests, and I'm sure they'll do the right thing.
 

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Leave the Grand where it belongs at the WSRC in Sparta and the CC for that other shoot after the GRAND. Maybe most should decide after they visit the largest trap shooting facility in the world in Sparta, IL.---Matt
 

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Good Lord does this crap ever end. Give it up already (Ohio) you have lost the Grand & I doubt it is ever coming back. If you truly care about trap shooting it is time to step up & support the Sparta facility just like everybody did when it was in Vandalia. By all means, also support the Cardinal Center & your local clubs also but most of all ------enjoy the sport no matter where you are. (while we still have it!!!) Colonel
 

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It would seem to make sense to hold off on a renewal and allow bidding as was done before. Since we now have 3 venues that could possibly bid (WSRC, Cardinal Center & Las Vegas)we would be in a position for better terms. If there are no bids, Sparta would get the Grand by default again.
 

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I live in Ohio and feel fortunate that we have a first class facility at the
Cardinal Center. Leave the Grand in Sparta, another first class facility. The
Grand has a home. I say leave it alone. In answer to the question, Yes!!
John
 

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If the same, or better terms were offered.... YES

Those who think it's just an Ohio thing are missing the point that many shooters quit attending due to the heat. You should read more threads. As the economy "progresses" the number of Grand participants will skew even more towards the retired. Shoot where it's hotter - Good Idea!

While you're at it, what exactly are the costs vs. income for the "Grand". Are all of us not attending paying for the party, or is it self sustaining. ie. Would you still shoot the Grand if the prices were, say, doubled? (At least until the debt is paid down)
Are these numbers available, or is this part of what's being concealed?

JT
 

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I'm very happy with the WSRC at Sparta and I think that the ATA owes a lot to the people of Illinois for putting their trust in us. As the director of the complex explained to the BOD at the annual meeting, both the State of Illinois and investors such as prospective hotel builders need an assured - and extended - agreement in order to justify added support.

An example of what we might get is a golf-cart bridge over Cardinal Road, which would certainly keep my own heart-rate down as I try to cross that thoroughfare in a machine that often seems to slow, not accelerate, as I hit the gas.

It's the best trapshooting facility in the world. Why would I want to move?

Neil
 

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Why move from the greatest trapshooting facility in the world?

Leave in Sparta. And yes I've veen there 3 of the 5 years.

Jim C

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The ATA will be broke in 5 years and the trap machines will need a major overhaul. I don't worry about the lease. How do you say pull in Chinese.
 
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