Set trap on straightaway from post 3. Break birds. Adjust. Break birds. Repeat until you are smoking them.

 

Just jump in and try different rib heights, choke combinations and comb adjustments if it's adjustable....... you can always pattern the gun if you are still having issues .....

 

The BT-100 that I purchased does not have an adjustable comb or adjustable butt plate. Since I had shoulder surgery recoil really bothers my shoulder. So I thought that I would buy a RAD system and install it myself. Having a milling machine and lathe in my shop I have made and installed a couple adjustable butt plates. I made my own adjustable but plates because the threaded part for adjusting LOP (on the one that is very popular) was so big that I had to bore out the hole in the stock. So I made mine with the thread size that would go in the existing hole size.

I have read a couple of threads where guys put recoil systems on BT-100s. So I figured I would probably need one as well. I haven't decided whether I'm going to shoot it first to see if I need one or just go ahead and order one and as soon as I get the gun install the recoil system before ever shooting it. What does the community think?

 

Most trap instructors are going to suggest a very high POI for trap. If you are primarily a skeet shooter and hunter etc use to 50/50 like me, I found I'm better off at somewhere between 60/40 and 70/30 as my natural tendency will always be to cover the bird. So my goal is just enough to be just at bottom of target and have enough rise built in to smoke targets. Too much gap and its just not natural / instinctive and required constant adjustment for me from one discipline to the next. I've tried about every trap gun setup over the decades and keep coming back to approx 65/35 as I shoot skeet, sporting, hunting etc where the built in rise is not beneficial. I also found too high a rib was a conflict for me as my eye always tended towards natural barrel pointing as that's just what i grew up doing lots of wing and clay shooting. Settled on mid height rib trap guns. A400multi and a CG impact sporting. A400 xcel and a400 action for non trap.

Good luck

 

Know your spread, probably 50/50 so you'll most likely have to cover the target. You can use IC if you shoot early enough for 16 yard. Same form, keep the gun moving.

 

This is bad advise no less than Modified or Full Choke.
Its you not the gun. Buy Leo Harrison trap shooting tapes.

 

Welcome to the group

 

Thank you for the replies!

I normally shoot skeet with my 425 American Sporter 28 gauge or 725 field .410 which are both 50/50. But this trap game is a totally different. My gun club every other month has a sub gauge trap match. I shoot it with my 28 gauge and shoot in high teens and low 20s.
Can't wait to get the BT-100.

 

"transitioning"......

 

Once you're smoking targets, play a little bit with different gun height/ eye placement combinations....always keeping your eye away from the bead. Trap shooters don't look straight down the barrel...any more than skeet shoots do. Most of us are looking above the gun. Gun placement can be on the house, at the edge, or just above. Eye placement above the barrel (there is a below the barrel technique, but lets not mess with that yet). If you are a one-eyed shooter, start out with the gun on the roof of the house and your eye just above the edge. Always separate eye and gun.

You are currently accustomed to a flat shooting gun, so don't go crazy...I'd start pretty flat, maybe 60/40, and go from there.

 

Once you're smoking targets, play a little bit with different gun height/ eye placement combinations....always keeping your eye away from the bead. Trap shooters don't look straight down the barrel...any more than skeet shoots do. Most of us are looking above the gun. Gun placement can be on the house, at the edge, or just above. Eye placement above the barrel (there is a below the barrel technique, but lets not mess with that yet). If you are a one-eyed shooter, start out with the gun on the roof of the house and your eye just above the edge. Always separate eye and gun.

You are currently accustomed to a flat shooting gun, so don't go crazy...I'd start pretty flat, maybe 60/40, and go from there.

So what I do is I mount my gun and I make sure the back bead is behind the front bead I have my gun about even with the back side of the house. As the roof of the house is slanted back toward me. Depending on which station I am at. Station one I'm at the left of the house station 3 I'm at the center of the house station 5 I'm at the right of the house. I look out straight over the barrel. I call Pull, watch for the bird, chase the bird, lead the bird shoot.

 

I just bought a BT-100. Hopefully I will receive it by the end of the week or early next week at the latest! How do I decide whether to set it up 60/40 70/30, 80/20 or 90/10.

Just get the two beads to line up like a figure 8. If you can do that without the purchase of a adj. comb or a adj. butt plate. Great, no need to get them. Now go out and shoot some one oz. loads at 1,145fps to 1,180fps. That should take care of any recoil issues. If not??? Buy (or make) some 7/8 oz. loads at 1,200 fps. That will work for sure. Your BT-100 will shoot (beads lined up like a fig.8) about 5 inches higher than your 50/50 POI skeet shotgun. No Need to go Higher until you shoot 1,000 targets.

Do Not Attempt to Install a RAD Unit yourself. Not unless your first class Finish Carpenter that can drill out, and install a Full Mortise Lockset. I'm talking about a Baldwin Mortise Lock. Which you will never find in a HD Orange store.
I suggest you find a stock fitter that has installed 50 Rad Units already. Its money sell spent. The metal plate and recoil pad have to be ground down to size, and then the sides of each polished until they are smooth. Not a easy task without the proper tools. Good Luck to Ya. break em all Jeff

 

Just get the two beads to line up like a figure 8. If you can do that without the purchase of a adj. comb or a adj. butt plate. Great, no need to get them. Now go out and shoot some one oz. loads at 1,145fps to 1,180fps. That should take care of any recoil issues. If not??? Buy (or make) some 7/8 oz. loads at 1,200 fps. That will work for sure. Your BT-100 will shoot (beads lined up like a fig.8) about 5 inches higher than your 50/50 POI skeet shotgun. No Need to go Higher until you shoot 1,000 targets.

Do Not Attempt to Install a RAD Unit yourself. Not unless your first class Finish Carpenter that can drill out, and install a Full Mortise Lockset. I'm talking about a Baldwin Mortise Lock. Which you will never find in a HD Orange store.
I suggest you find a stock fitter that has installed 50 Rad Units already. Its money sell spent. The metal plate and recoil pad have to be ground down to size, and then the sides of each polished until they are smooth. Not a easy task without the proper tools. Good Luck to Ya. break em all Jeff

I made this adjustable butt from aluminum plates. I polished it out to a mirror finish. I think I could handle the RAD! This is the third one that I have made! The owner was very happy!

 

2 things: a ic choke for trap is foolish. and next; the best way to "sight in" a trap gun, as said above, is to shoot straight aways from post 3. after you are confident that you have the correct height set; change stations with the trap still set on straight aways. if someone can tell us what is a better way; let us know.....

 

the best way to "sight in" a trap gun, as said above, is to shoot straight aways from post 3. after you are confident that you have the correct height set;

Can you please tell me how he can adjust his shotgun???
The method you pointed out, can only be used with a shooter that has a adj. comb, and most likely a adj. rib as well.

His BT-100 had a fixed Rib, and it does not have a adjustable comb either.

All he can do is get the two beads to line up in a fig.8, and go shoot the friggen gun. Then decide the next course of action. After all he is a experienced clay target shooter, that likes a flat shooting shotgun already. I am quite confident that with his beads lined up, the shotgun will shoot much higher than he is used to to start with.

He is not ready to start Floating targets. He might never be ready. I shoot trap like Leo did. With a 60/40 POI shotgun, and point right at the bottom of the target. Its completely natural to shoot like this. Learning to Float targets is a learned trait, that takes time. break em all jeff

 

Get rid of the tutu and get a really big shirt lol. Just kidding. They can get rowdy on here but it's mostly just fun.

 

Starting point 70/30. Full choke adjust from there. Pattering board then post3 straight ways Be patient it will happen. Have fun on the journey

 

Someone once told me not to pattern my gun. Just shoot straight aways and adjust the gun to where you want to break the bird!

 

Sounds like you are allready a trapshooter letting the mental aspect get the best of you,

As posted get on the 16 and try the adjustments

DGH

 

Oh yeah! My brain gets the best of me in every thing I try to do! It happens in skeet too! If I'm carrying my option by about station 4 my brain starts thinking about a 25 and guess what happens on station 5 or 6? I miss a bird!

 

Too many people miss because they try to aim.

 

What do you call it if you don't aim? I realized unlike a rifle where you aim dead on the target. With a shotgun, you aim with the correct lead but it is still aiming!

 

Patterning a gun and adjusting Point of Impact(POI) are two different things. Patterning tells you what sort of spread your pellets have at a given distance. POI tells you where you are going to place the pattern relative to your Point of Aim (POA).

You may find the addition of an adjustable comb to be of value to you.

 

i guess that i missed the part where he has no adj comb. he should have one installed. no one really needs a adj rib. but an adj comb is imporntant. AND you do not need to see a figure 8. if you see space between the beads and are crushing targets, that is all that matters!! if you cannot shoot seeing a space between the beads, i feel sorry for you....

 

I traditionally shot with a 50/50 sporting gun. Like you I read the forms and thought changing the rib to let me see the targets above the bead would help. Turns out it didn't and it will force you to learn to shoot in a different spot then your used to. For a few years I had been shooting a DT11 sporting pretty well. I thought I would try something new so I got a K80 with adjustable rib. I set it at the second setting I believe about 60/40 from what I saw on the pattern board. I went from being a pretty consistent 22-24 shooter to high teens. I might have shot that gun about 1k rounds at that setting before I gave up and lowered the rib back down to about 50/50 and now I'm back to being a mid 20's shooter.

Moral of the story changing the rib hight is not a silver bullet and it may make you worse before you get better. I frankly was frustrated and just went back to what was working (possibly prematurely). Not to mention I was also concerned about how that would affect the other guns I shoot for the other types of targets.

 

Bought a CG Summit 12ga 30” to shoot mostly skeet and then migrated to trap also. Shooting the same gun with minor adjustment of comb closer to 60/40. If I’m shooting both disciplines on the same day I begin with trap. Skeet>trap is awkward for me.

 

To transition, first you have to take “skeet blocker”, then a regimen of trap hormones.
Two years of psychological therapy and then the operation to make it final.

 

That is funny! That's about how it is too! Some guys use the same gun for all disciplines and shoot excellent!