Dave, so there you have it! They are a fine shotgun that fits well into the price range of the Brownings and lower end Beretta's as well. They were made in Japan, and Japan stopped produceing them because they were losing money on the current exchange with the US Dollar. Now maybe it seems they have found a new US Company to produce these shotguns, and time will tell. One thing that SKB has going for them is they are a leader in factory service for their shotguns!!! Browning, Beretta, Remington, all have very poor customer service with long repair times. SKB has excellent service with quick turnaround time and will update all their guns for little to no out of pocket expense to you. Something the others would never do. The Winchester Energy shotguns made in Belgium are also a very good gun that many of the savy shooters like to buy. You may lose abit more if you try to sell these guns, but if you keep them it will make very little difference, and still will last you a lifetime and you will be able to hand down to your sons. So don't be put off by these two fine shotguns. Break-em all. Jeff