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Holy Sh!t shells are expensive over here!

Yesterday I went to one of the few places that sell shells here (you can't just go to a sporting goods store and buys shells, AND...you have to prove you have a firearms permit! Not only that, they write your name down in a register when you buy shells.)

Selection is limited.

About all they have for target shooting is 28 gram (about 1 ounce) loads at 1325 fps, and 24 gram international loads at about 1350 fps.

I got a flat of 24 gram international loads. I'm accustomed to 1 ounce at about 1160 fps. My shoulder doesn't need that kind of punishment. The 24 gram shells at 1350 is going to be bad enough!

The place I went to had 2 brand options. Saga (never heard of, but he said it was made in Spain), and Clever "Mirage" made in Italy, which I had actually heard of, so I chose those.

Price? 825 Rand for a flat, which at current conversion rates converts to a whopping $116. $11.60 a box!!!!

Even the cheap shells are 660 Rand, or about $93.

Shooting over here is going to be pricey!
 

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I wouldn't worry about the recoil. Regardless of what the "experts" will tell you I find the weight of the shot charge to be the primary determining factor in felt recoil.

It sounds like bunker loads may be more common over there than ATA loads although I know both disciplines are shot there.

I shoot bunker loads often and find that the faster 24 gram loads give me less felt recoil than slower 1 oz loads. So forget it... enjoy!
 

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Any possibility or rolling your own? I'll bet components will be hard to come by as well.

Good luck and don't sweat the cost of ammo ... you are on an adventeure so live life to the fullest.
 

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True!

I'll have to ask around the club to see if anybody reloads.

Planning to do a little shooting at a small club not far from my house on Saturday. Looking forward to it.
 

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timb99--What you doing in that neck of the woods? Vacation? Sounds fun although pricey.---Matt
 

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Thanks Jeff. I guess there could be worse places to be sent for work.--Matt
 

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Its pretty good so far.

I lived almost 4 years in Thailand.

Two years in South Africa should be a walk in the park.
 

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Matt, maybe you could check with customs/or local Post office and see if anyone here could ship you out some STS's at a better price/ if its allowed or do able and or cost productive. Good Luck over there. Break-em all. Jeff
 

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Probably not cost effective, practical, or legal to have someone send me shells here.

Heck, a FedEx letter cost me $110 to get from the Kansas City to Johannesburg.

I'll just have to bite the bullet and pay the price.
 

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TMB If it is convenient try shooting at Valley Gun Club, R312 between Paarl and Durbanville, Capetown. GPS S33.753989 ,E18.806997 They also sell Eley and RC cartridges. very good shooting, very hospitable people.Steve B
 

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Looks like quite a club sturgeon.

If I get down that way, I'll have to check it out.

Its a bit of a distance from Johannesburg, though.
 

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Shot today at a small 1 trap, one skeet club. Nice guys.

Pretty pricey, though. With shells, almost $20 a round.

They only get together once a month, bring food, grill out (called braai) and have a few beers.

They shoot DTL trap which is exactly like ATA, except the targets are international targets, and they throw much wider angles.

The skeet is closer to international, where you start low gun, and there's a random delay between call and target.
 

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Planning to go to a larger club next weekend.
 

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So are you an ace there, are is there some good shots at the club?---Matt
 

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Matt,

Well, at THAT club maybe.

But they're kind of an old men good-old-boys club, not serious shooters.

We'll see this weekend when I try the bigger club. One of the guys at one of the bigger clubs said his sons are representing South Africa in clay target shooting at the Commonwealth Games in India next week, so I'm guessing there are some pretty good shooters over here.
 

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I can see it now, South Africa's new "Big Dog". LOL Be safe and keep us posted. I'm enjoying the South Africa lesson through an American's eyes.---Matt
 
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