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No But owned by same corporation.
 

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A few years ago, I compared a sample form one bag of Lawrence and one bag of West Coast. The West Coast was more uniform in size and roundness. Both were of equal hardness. This very limited test put the idea in my mind that West Coast was a little better than Lawrence. But, if I were to test several different lots of the two brands, I might come to a different conclusion.

My "roundness test" involved putting shot on a piece of 8X24 in glass with a wood fence and slightly elevating one end and observing how many shot rolled and how far they rolled. My size test used a piece of 8X30' glass for the bottom and apiece of 8X24 glass for the top. The two pieces of glass were set at a slight angle that allowed the shot to go into the taper but not get to the bottom. Different size shot would travel different distances between the angled pieces of glass.

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tuscarora 99 - Do you really prefer Eagle and Star shot over Lawrence?

flip- Strange questions sometimes just pop up in my mind and I fret about them until I can find an answer. It is just a weakness I have.

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I do. Not so much eagle but definitely star. I had an incident where i shot at a tournament with reloads for the sixteens with 1oz. of lawrence brand at about 1200 fps and i literally turned targets left and right and they didnt break i couldnt believe what i was seeing. i came out with a 91 but could have had a 94 or 95 otherwise. It was a very strange occurence.
 

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I was just a little but i mean i literally turned the birds left and right. I dont see how that is possible with out at least taking a little chip off.
 

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tuscarora 99:

It isn’t uncommon to hit a Federal Champion II target and move it noticeably off course without producing a visible piece.

Champion II’s are known for minimal breakage during shipping, handling and when run thru automatic traps. Knowledgeable shooters know them to have minimal breakage when hit with lead shot unless the hit is fairly well centered using 3 dram 7 ½’s.

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For what it is worth, probably not much, I have never had a problem with Lawrence mag shot. I shoot handloads in all ATA events and do very well with Lawrence shot.

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Trap-4 - I like you don't have a problem with Lawrence shot, but we have no idea after shooting a 98 with Lawrence if we would have done better, the same or worse if we had been shooting West Coast brand shot.

tuscarora 99- Your dislike of Lawrence shot might be based on a couple of different things. But, because you dislike it, Lawrence could give you a bag of the very best shot ever made and it would not work well for you. Having confidence in your load is possibly more important than how the load actually shoots. The mental part of shooting trap is very important.

Pat Ireland

PS- For me, it is critical that if I begin on post 4, that my first shell is the fourth one from the left in the box. I always match the first shell on each post with the shell in that position in the box.
 

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Magnum grade lawrence shot is as good or better then West coast. tuscarora 99 Were you shooting in the Pacific NorthWest? We have NorthWest Brand Targets and they are very very hard, lots of moved targets with factory premium traploads in size 8 or smaller and even 7 1/2's it's hard to smoke a target. Jeff
 

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Given a choice today. I would select West Coast Shot every time. Eagle brand is made in Peru and seems to vary in size from bag to bag. The old Black Diamond shot was outstanding until they started to close down, then their quality control went to s--t. Fred
 
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