[blackandgold]

Don't take this as legal advice but I'd get some legal advice. Hazmat shipping has serious consequences should you not follow the regs and laws.

 

[skeet_man]

Step 1: Give a lawyer a retainer
Step 2: Gather 100k for the fine you'll receive
Step 3: Make sure your pets and family have 10 years worth of food so they don't starve while you're in prison

TLDR: You can't.

 

[maccrazy2]

Has to be shipped by a hazmat certified person/company.

 

[DMarshall]

It’s cost prohibitve for an individual to legally ship primers or powder at all. Don‘t waste your time unless you are friendly with a company that regularly ships Hazardous Materials, and has the contracts and training to do so.

Putting any HazMat in an unmarked box and trying to ship it is a federal felony.

 

[irish red & white]

I wanted to ship legally not wanting to ship on the Sly. I believe I'll just forget about trying to ship.
Thanks for the replies. Mark

 

[postmastertim]

Step 1: Give a lawyer a retainer
Step 2: Gather 100k for the fine you'll receive
Step 3: Make sure your pets and family have 10 years worth of food so they don't starve while you're in prison

TLDR: You can't.

Fine has been upped to $250,000

 

[maccrazy2]

I called around to try to find a company that would ship some for me but no one was interested in messing with it. Wanted to mail some to a friend who was out.

 

[Mr. D]

Depends, going to a friend or the White House?

 

[skeet_man]

I called around to try to find a company that would ship some for me but no one was interested in messing with it. Wanted to mail some to a friend who was out.

Put them in hulls and ship them UPS or Fedex Ground. Perfectly legal to ship that way. USPS is 100% forbidden.

 

[RSVP410]

Still need to be label OMD as ammunition if you shipped primed hulls. Tread lightly.

 

[blackandgold]

Still need to be label OMD as ammunition if you shipped primed hulls. Tread lightly.

The Orm D regs are changing. There was a thread about this not too long ago. I don't think anyone knows exactly what changes, if any, will be made.

 

[dirt stirrer]

Still need to be label OMD as ammunition if you shipped primed hulls. Tread lightly.

As of just a few months ago, anyone cold ship loaded ammunition with an ORMD sticker, Other Regulated Material, Class D. No relation to primers or powder. If I had a bunch of junk brass, I could put 5,000 primers in that junk brass and mail it, and it's not required to go hazmat, only ORMD, like live ammo. Hinky huh.

That was a few months ago. I haven't checked lately, but crap is changing so fast now, I'm scared to look. I might be a felon if I did.

 

[KS-5 Spec.]

Check with the shippers as to what labels, packaging, etc., are required. Shipping costs may be prohibitive. Then again, primers are like gold currently.

 

[maccrazy2]

Orm-d is gone as of January 1st. Now it is “limited quantity” markings. A white diamond with 2 black corners.

 

[maccrazy2]

 

[skeet_man]

Still need to be label OMD as ammunition if you shipped primed hulls. Tread lightly.

This is incorrect.

"" Cases, cartridge, empty with primer which are made of metallic or plastic casings and meeting the classification criteria of Division 1.4 are not regulated for domestic transportation"
49CFR § 172.102 (page 312) - http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2010-title49-vol2/pdf/CFR-2010-title49-vol2-sec172-102.pdf"

You are being redirected...

 

[dgh]

Seems just NOT worth it

DGH

 

[dirt stirrer]

Orm-d is gone as of January 1st. Now it is “limited quantity” markings. A white diamond with 2 black corners.

So, isn't this the new politically correct ORM-D label. I've used these for a while now. I just suspected they changed it so the packrats might not recognize the packages as ammo as readily. It might take them a while to figure out what the white bar means, but they will eventually and stuff will start disappearing again.

 

[pyrdek]

A few years back after talking with Winchester regarding some primers in a 5000 primer case that had a problem with the battery cup, Winchester sent me a new case of primers and arranged for the 3700 suspect primers to be shipped back to them. It was shipped using a motor freight company. I did deliver it to the freight company terminal because I was going to be going to that city (about 40 miles away from my home) anyway on other business. The primers could have been picked up by the motor freight company at my home if i wanted it that way. I did have to pack the case with some filler to take up the space from where I took the primers I had already used. I don't remember if it had the older ORM, before the back diamond, tag or if it was the black tag.