[Snooky]

Whats the old wash women washing? HA, Never mind.

Two weeks in so far. Covid. Rough stuff

 

[MDeY]

Hope you kick it in the butt soon and get back on your feet

 

[Snooky]

Hope you kick it in the butt soon and get back on your feet

Thanks M. I'm good. It's the wife. Going to be a really long recovery looks like.

Still think he should get a fixed choke Wingmaster 😂.

 

[peavine]

-They will kick the by-God out of you. They are difficult to wear out. The receiver may crack in front of the bolt.

 

[slide action]

-They will kick the by-God out of you. They are difficult to wear out. The receiver may crack in front of the bolt.

Had guns that kicked worse . Owned a Win. 101 and my 870s are pussy cats compared to that thing ! As far as wearing them out ,I have an old TA grade with over 275,000 rounds through it shot it for trap, games and skeet for over 44 years now( haven't worn it out yet.) Always heard about the receiver cracks but, I have been shooting 870s or around 870s for well over half a century and only know one person who had one.

 

[MOHusker]

The Express is the cheapened down version of the 870 Wingmaster. They brought out the Fieldmaster as the replacement for the Express. It’s supposed to have a smoother action but I haven’t used one. There are enough used Wingmasters I would buy one of those before I bought an Express or Gamemaster, they look better and are a better gun overall. I have several Wingmasters and 1100’s. Both are great guns for a reasonable price. Just depends on if he wants a pump or semi auto.

 

[Snooky]

-They will kick the by-God out of you. They are difficult to wear out. The receiver may crack in front of the bolt.

Falconstrike tames that a lot

 

[peavine]

Had guns that kicked worse . Owned a Win. 101 and my 870s are pussy cats compared to that thing ! As far as wearing them out ,I have an old TA grade with over 275,000 rounds through it shot it for trap, games and skeet for over 44 years now( haven't worn it out yet.) Always heard about the receiver cracks but, I have been shooting 870s or around 870s for well over half a century and only know one person who had one.

I hear ya. I have y model that is no slouch in the recoil department. The worst I was ever kicked was a browning 20 gauge skeet gun. Plus 1 on the 101 for recoil! Maybe the 1100's cracked the receiver more.

 

[rosies dad]

I would say 11-87 Remington, its a "newer Improved" version of the 1100. Also if he gets a 870, the Wingmaster is a much nicer fit/finish than the Express. For sure get one with Rem Chokes for versatility.
Hopefully he is getting a 12ga, much more versatile than a 20ga.

 

[Rabbit-hunter]

Well, we went and he looked at several guns. Surprisingly their used inventory was a thinner selection than I have seen in a long time. But, he settled on a Benelli Super Black Eagle. It pushed his budget some, but he felt it was the most comfortable fit off the rack. He also really liked the Beretta A300 but felt the Benelli was just a little better feel.
LMAO the young man has good taste though. He was practically drooling over a couple Kolar,s and CG's on the rack.

He looked at an 870 but said it just felt too gritty to him. He also considered a Fausti O/U with nice engraving that was on consignment. But it would have needed a comb cut to make it fit better.
Now we just need the weather to cooperate to go give it a shot

 

[shooterbt99]

Alright here's the deal, my daughter and I have gotten my new (less than a year) son in law (24yo) hooked on shooting clays. Just 2 years ago he wasn't about to shoot a shotgun. He had seen a gun blow up from a careless uncle who mixed 20g shells with 12g and carnage ensued.
Over the last year we got him to give it a go and he is actually pretty good at it. He had a great time this past weekend at our clubs turkey shoot and hasn't stopped talking about it to me (I work with him) or my daughter.
So, he is now shopping for his first shotgun. He wants something to start out with that he can hunt with or break some clays without borrowing from me. I suggested looking for a Remington 870 or maybe a Remington 1100.

So here's the question, what are the differences in the Remington 870 Express and the 870 Field? They look the same in pictures on my phone. Is there an 870 to stay away

Other than an 870 or 1100, what other guns under $1k would be a quality utilitarian multi-purpose shotgun?

Trying to do my homework to help him out as he has asked me to go gun shopping this weekend and help him sort through the gun store BS.

The 870 and 1100 both good choices. The Browning BPS is good choice. Beretta A300 series also a good choice. With rising gun prices, a good used gun may be a possibility. A Remington 1100 competition would meet all of your requirements. New ones are in the mid teens, but you might find a good used one in your price range. Don't be afraid to buy a good used gun. Most gun owners take very good care of their firearms. Buying used will open up a wider range of firearms in your price range. Whatever you buy, make sure it fits your son in law's requirements and also fits him. A gun that doesn't fit the shooter makes for very poor shooting.

 

[entropy]

Well, we went and he looked at several guns. Surprisingly their used inventory was a thinner selection than I have seen in a long time. But, he settled on a Benelli Super Black Eagle. It pushed his budget some, but he felt it was the most comfortable fit off the rack. He also really liked the Beretta A300 but felt the Benelli was just a little better feel.
LMAO the young man has good taste though. He was practically drooling over a couple Kolar,s and CG's on the rack.

He looked at an 870 but said it just felt too gritty to him. He also considered a Fausti O/U with nice engraving that was on consignment. But it would have needed a comb cut to make it fit better.
Now we just need the weather to cooperate to go give it a shot

He'll find that SBE has more kick than an 1100, 11-87, or Beretta. They are an inertia gun, so no spreading the recoil out over time (and space) as in a gas gun. But they are an excellent gun, dependable to a fault, and will last. They are also easier to clean than gas autos. If that's what feels good to him, that's what he should be shooting.
Betcha he figures out a way to get an O/U in the not too distant future.

 

[Rabbit-hunter]

He'll find that SBE has more kick than an 1100, 11-87, or Beretta. They are an inertia gun, so no spreading the recoil out over time (and space) as in a gas gun. But they are an excellent gun, dependable to a fault, and will last. They are also easier to clean than gas autos. If that's what feels good to him, that's what he should be shooting.
Betcha he figures out s way to get an O/U in the not too distant future.

The employee explained to him the Benelli would have a bit more felt recoil than the Beretta with the kick off system has. He went back and forth shouldering both with his eyes closed and said that the Benelli didn't seem to require any moving his head/ eye to look right down the rib.

I am also fairly certain he will end up with an O/U in the not so distant future as well. That's what really had his attention. But, he determined he wanted to stay under $1500 and went a tad over that. He would have been a touch over 2k to get a quality O/U.
They did have a Beretta 694 (I think) used in his price range but it had clearly seen some hard use.

 

[wrecks]

Alright here's the deal, my daughter and I have gotten my new (less than a year) son in law (24yo) hooked on shooting clays. Just 2 years ago he wasn't about to shoot a shotgun. He had seen a gun blow up from a careless uncle who mixed 20g shells with 12g and carnage ensued.
Over the last year we got him to give it a go and he is actually pretty good at it. He had a great time this past weekend at our clubs turkey shoot and hasn't stopped talking about it to me (I work with him) or my daughter.
So, he is now shopping for his first shotgun. He wants something to start out with that he can hunt with or break some clays without borrowing from me. I suggested looking for a Remington 870 or maybe a Remington 1100.

So here's the question, what are the differences in the Remington 870 Express and the 870 Field? They look the same in pictures on my phone. Is there an 870 to stay away from?

Other than an 870 or 1100, what other guns under $1k would be a quality utilitarian multi-purpose shotgun?

Trying to do my homework to help him out as he has asked me to go gun shopping this weekend and help him sort through the gun store BS.

Got my kids Winchester SXP Traps for everything. Compact for the short-armed ones. Got 4 for less than a "normal" trap gun. Two of them shot their first 25 straights last summer.

Winchester 30" SXP Trap 12 Gauge Pump Shotgun