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How common is sandbaggin' in trap ?

Twenty-five plus years ago in IHMSA pistol competition sandbaggin' was common.

It seemed like the national matches were won with scores in the lower classes (C, B, A, AA) which would have been competitive in AAA class.

In trap, do all the shooters rise to the occasion at the national matches and shoot better than they ever have before ?

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This is gonna be a good one. Winter + this subject. Going to get my popcorn and and BL.

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Hold it. Let me get some popcorn.


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*cough* the trick is to have a LOT of really BAD registered practice targets to offset your 99% scores during shoots *cough*

but yeah i bet there is a ton of "target management" going on which is why i hate seeing class D winning scores with a 98x100. people can have a good day, but gimme' a break.
 

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There is a local guy i see at shoots around my area and he openly brags about his target management. Most that know him know how he is. He just dooesn't realize how stupid he appears. Anyone purposely practicing target management i.e. Sandbagging are plain and simple cheaters. I'm out to shoot my best possible every time i shoot. I'm to competitive natured. I also have a conscious.

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Someone bump grnberetcj(Curt). His record is skipping.
 

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If you think you can go to a shoot with at least 100 shooters (probably less) and shoot your average (class) and win, you haven't looked at the scoreboards lately. Just doesn't happen. Shoot in the cold and rain all spring and then when it's warmer the scores are well above your average. Have you sandbagged?? Don't think so, just the outside sport we enjoy. Also, if you shoot mostly at lousy set targets, at lousy clubs, against lousy backgrounds, when you go to a club with a great background, well set targets, and a well ran shoot, your scores will be well higher. Again, not sandbagging, just the facts of an average from one club to another. Today, when we are shooting for pop can trophies, it isn't worth the cost of shells to try to manipulate the averages. And, Kentucky does have a very large amount of very good short yardage shooters!!!

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I know of one sadbagger(not a spelling error this time) and I realy don't know why he does it. He is a senior vet and probaly won't shoot much longer, you would think he would want to break all the targets he can.
I also think the ATA could end a lot of sandbagging by requiring,(at
the bigger shoots)that if you want to shoot for money you shoot from at least the 25. I feel this would take away the temptation to stay on the 20 yard line and still allow the beginner or vet to have a great day and win a trophy.John Moore
 

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Gslam: Glad to see you are a perfect person. You just slammed all ATA shooters and you oh perfect person are full of BS. You oviously hang out with the wrong people or gun clubs. But did your father tell you that it is easier to whine then to practce getting more competitive??

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Its in trap shooting and no one wants to admitt it. mLook at the scores of D and C class shootes at big shoots. They shouldn't be scoring 98 99 and 100's.
 

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At a large shoot in the lower classes you have to shoot a score that's at least two classes above your average, that's just a fact. So is this evidence of "sandbagging" or is it the "every now and then a blind squirrel finds an acorn" factor. Keep in mind that at large shoots there's a LOT of blind squirrels out there?
 

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i mean i,m on a roll here they had me shooting A class when i first started shooting and i,m breaking mid 90,s and now i,m shooting a class with my friend that usually outshoot me but they are still in c class or even d class when it comes to the state shoots or bigger tournament
 
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