I'm disappointed the club would allow Democratic candidates
to use the facility. If the opportunity arises, they would
vote to control any and all guns. As a club member, I won't
attend. This should be voted on by the membership before it's
Much like Bill Clinton and his famous duck hunt, Democrats often will get media exposure of them with gun related activities hoping not to lose as many votes to the casual gun owners. Mr. Clinton was not exactly known as a pro gun president once he took office, now was he? Democrats only want to ban "bad" guns like AK-47s & AR15s plus handguns of all types. Oh yeah, they might have to get your Remington 1100 & Browning A5 since nobody really needs a deadly, evil, & murdering semi auto.
To be a DFL supporter, you have to accept that it’s party line is anti gun. Hopefully the group has so much fun at Buffalo that they can change the DFL party’s platform nationwide, but I will not be taking that bet.
I think I have come to understand that "sportsmen/sportswomen type" "ATA type" and "NRA type" gun owners might be three different schools of thought on what type of gun a person should be able to own, let alone defend one's self or carry.
I think your a terrific lady. The problem is, I don't believe
in what the Democratic party believes in. Especially since
Obama became president. He has this country in a down-hill slide from
which we probably will never recover. The liberal politicians attending are the same one's who voted against concealed carry and are trying to halt private sales at gun shows. If it was in their power, the only gun you would own would be a single barrel and you would be required to keep it locked at the gun club. Before this event is held again,it should be voted on by all members.By all members, I mean a mailing should go to all asking for approval. My guess is that 80% plus of the members would vote against it. Speaking for myself, if it's
held again, I will not renew my membership. Incidently, have you
noticed the bumper sticker on my car? It say's "ARE YOU SORRY YOU VOTED FOR
OBAMA YET?" Pretty much say's it all.....
I for one do not believe you are "running a shoot for people
interested in shooting" This event is all about promoting
the liberal Democratic agenda. I'm sure the politicians
attending are hoping to "win the hearts and minds' of attendies.
I am not going to be there because I do not believe I could
act civilly in their presence and I don't want to embarrass
Now your getting my blood pressure up! The $2,000 is not
as important as defeating the liberal Democratic agenda.
This event is not about trap shooting- it's only about
politics! I have no patience for people trying to transform
America into a Socialist country. In every conversation we
have at the club concerning politics, you express an anti-
Democrtic Party position but you allow this to happen. I don't
feel the club should cancel the event at this late date but
the full membership should be entitled to vote on this issue next year.
It's no secret that John Farrel and Sally are committed Democrats
but they should not be allowed to muscle this event without the
full membership having their input. I am also disappointed that
other club members haven't stood up on this forum and taken
a position on this issue.
As a board member of BGC I'm very disappointed in the coments above, every body has there right to believe in what they feel is right and wrong ( I believe this is our constuitional right)
I thought we could have our own opinions and still go out have a great round of trap together, I tried to get this across in a differet venue but there are just to many emotions involved for every body to make a sound decision.
I would like to ask how many of you are Catholics and how many are lutherns, they do not see eye to eye but we all have agreat time on the trap range together
It saddens me that all these feelings are coming out against 2 people that support this sport more than anybody else I know.
I also do not agree with the DFL party, but I will stand next to Sally and John any day of the week. These people are great friends and I will not let any difference of opinions come between us.
After consulting with my husband I have decided not to play this ts.com game anymore. No good will come of it and I have deleted my posts. My husband, friends and, regrettably, youth I coach have already started being penalized today because I have the audacity to be a Democrat. Apparently working my tail off to be a better shooter, hunter, coach and supporter of all things trapshooting will never be taken into consideration.
Lew Boyko stated to several tonight the following quote, "Democrats should not be able to shoot at my club." Singular or plural. Why am I the only one who thinks there's something wrong with this?
Just might be a good thing to have some nice photos of DFLers shooting trap. If they choose to take an anti-gun stand in the future, the photos might serve as a reminder for them and the world that they themselves participate on occasion. Much like the photo of one of Buffalo's attackers accepting the Gun Club of the Year award on benalf of Buffalo Gun Club. Remember that one Bob? Rich, have you ever had a democrat as a client in your practice? Of course; but that's different right? My wife wasn't very pro-gun until she tried it either. She's now approaching 100,000 registered targets. My Dad is a democrat but what the hell, I love him anyway. This could be a teaching opportunity folks; if you look forward rather than backward.
Let them see shooting in a positive light. They / we might learn something. There is currently an effort to get a shooting complex built with state funds. Surely having a few DFLers that have had a positive shooting experience cannot hurt that cause.
We want to grow the sport, don't we? So let's exclude democrats. Roughly 50% of the population. Some hate shooting with women, another 50% of the population that partially overlaps the democratic part of the population. Some don't like shooting with minorities, another substantial part of the population. We could throw in a few religions. Some of us hate skinny folks and people with hair. We end up with us and us isn't growing the sport. Think outside the box a little folks. Thinking outside the box is what makes Buffalo such a great and successful club. It also pisses off a few. Sally and Wally, I applaude your efforts!!!
When I take to the line, I like to do so with folks that enjoy the sport. EVERYTHING ELSE is a NON-FACTOR.
I don't have a problem with shooting trap with Democrats. I do
have a problem with the Buffalo Gun Club (or any other gun club)
using the facility to raise money for the Democratic Party. I believe
the vast majority of folks who support the shooting sports are
not Democrats and do not believe in what the Democratic Party espouses.
As you well know, the Democratic Party believes in growing the government
in size and power. It believes in more social programs which result
in higher taxes. It believes in government health care. Being raised in
Canada, you know how well that works there. They do not support the military
contrary to what they would have us believe. As a Marine, I do not
support Gays in the military. And yes, I will shoot trap with Gays. I
just don't want to shower with them. Maybe the club should pass a
resolution that says; the facility cannot be used to raise funds for any political party. John Podergois
The Dems have a loser in gun control. They know that. So it behooves 2nd amendment folks to get as many new Dems locked in as believers as we can. But Dayton showed his stripes when he left town over internet gossip. He may win the top job in MN, but he will take MN further down the road to fiscal destruction... You see... The key here is that the Dems want Obama to keep using "stimulus" funds to bail out the state deficit and placate the union membership a bit longer.
If any of you want some sanity back in government, vote in a congress that sees that 2 or 300 million* stimulus left as necessary to be NOT used.
I am anything but anti-union, but using my money to pad their pensions rather than adjusting as the rest of us are doing, is just criminal. Shame on the Dems for stealing my money to give it to greedy unions.
Signed "just another BGC member"
*Billion was what I meant. MN is 5 Billion in the red.
Sorry I forgot to say... Would someone please take some pictures that we can post on the internet? I would dearly love to see Wally's "s"eatin grin along side of the new gov. That'll be good for bus Walter... Real good.
I stopped by the Buffalo Gun Club around 11:00 A.M. Looked like a nice turn
out of shotgun toten Democrats. I saw MTA Secratary Sally Stevens outside of the club house. Sally asked me not to be disrespectfull. I told Sally I just
stopped in the see how it was going. Sally again said, I could stay but not
to be disrespectfull. I asked Sally how taunting a Minnesota Viet Nam Vertram on Trapshooters.com about seeing black helecopters in the air, was also not disrespectfull. I then stopped by the club house and found BGC
BOD, John Ferrell handling the shooters sign ups.
I extended my hand to John Ferrell for a good morning handshake, John really
did not want to shake hands, it was like shaking hands with a "wet dish rag"
as my mother used to say.
John Ferrell said that I "Lew D.Boyko" stepped over the line when I put
"ABOUT THE DFL [email protected] BUFFALO GUN CLUB" on Trapshootes.com. I told John it
was not me but someone called AR15 or Dale and I have no idea who that even
is. Trapshooters.com was how I first heard that the Buffalo Gun Club
was allowing this DFL trap shoot to take place.
Parking lot was pertty full, roughy 35 cars. I did not see any
DFL candidate, but will have to swing by BGC later and have a look see.
Weather was cloudy, damp but the sun is to be out later today.
QUESTION: John Ferrell is mad that someone put "ABOUT THE DFL [email protected] BUFFALO GUN CLUB" on Trapshooters.com. Well, how about Freedom of Speech, are we going
to be denied that also.
I just got back from the Oakdale Gun Club and the "Gun Club Exchange" meeting hosted there. It was a very valuable exposition of the Range Protection Act and the various things gun clubs can do to fulfill one of their responsibilities, namely, to survive into the future.
One of the main topics was politics and how to secure and use the political power the 50,000 (or so) gun club members have by virtue of their numbers. Gun clubs have invited various politicians - from township on up - to their facilities and the outcomes have been very positive.
I cannot understand how anyone can oppose exposing politicians to trapshooting in a positive atmosphere. We would be better off if every gun club did it. Buffalo is doing the right thing - it's a proven route to the seats of power.