Well when it happened to me in a Registered shoot, I looked at the other shooters apologized reloaded and proceeded to call for my bird and smoked it. I don't know if there was any rule but nobody said anything. Brother you ain't alone.

 

Simply reload and shoot again...

 

I shoot a release and one time I mounted my gun, pointed above the house, set the trigger and boom! I didn't call for the bird, but my gun went off. I apologized, loaded another shell, set the trigger and boom again! Apologized, changed to double barrels to shoot the bottom first and my release worked fine. Since I didn't call for the bird the squad leader said no failure to fire and we continued.

 

Can't lose a target that wasn't in the air.

 

Thank you all!
dju

 

But if a target HAD been in the air, it would be a lost target.

 

You have to call for a target if it is to be lost.

HM

 

Hello,

We have all seen a bird launched from the traphouse when it our turn to shoot,
could be someone moving a speaker?, closing the action on their shotgun? They could have said something to one of their buddies? etc.

Let me know if this is correct ? If it is your turn to shoot & someone on another station trips the speaker & you fire at the bird without calling , the result is scored.

 

hwy13 - In what you describe the target would be scored because you shot at it.

If and when this happens just lower your gun open the action and start over - don't shoot at a target you didn't call for.

David - don't feel bad, the AD happens to most guys using a release trigger at some point. The important thing is you had the gun pointed down range and there was no damage or injury. If you look at the back of the traphouses at just about any range you will see where they have been shot several times. The event obviously got your attention and I'll bet you don't have a repeat for some time.

 

halfmile & hwy 13 ........

SECTION VII - OFFICIAL SCORING

E. NO TARGET
The referee/scorer shall rule “NO TARGET” and allow another target(s) in the following instances:

6. When the trap is sprung without any call of pull, or when it is sprung at any material interval of time before or after the call of the contestant, provided the contestant does not fire. If the contestant fires, the result must be scored.

 

If a bird in the air, lost bird. Your only allowed 1 screwup at a time...

"Oh, I didn't call that bird! It caused my release to go off!"

Otherwise we'd all do it...

 

I wonder how many shooters, especially senior vets (like me) think that not taking off the safety, forgetting to put a shell in the gun, or a flinch is a lost target, and you could never convince them otherwise no matter what
that dadgummed rule book says.

 

A shoot off would have been a better place for that to happen lol. John

 

In IPSIC shooting an accidental discharge is considered unsafe handling and requires immediate disqualification. Not a bad rule?


jim brown

 

In IPSC, most accidental discharges can result in injuries up to and including death. Hence more strict rules....

In trap, when basic safety is practiced, an accidental discharge is little consequence.

 

Muzzle must always be down-range in IPSIC as in trap. Muzzle sweeping part of your body or pointing in an unsafe direction is also grounds for disqualification. 12 gauge is surely more devastating than IPSIC pistol calibers. Why would a AD in IPSIC be more dangerous? Not advocating just asking.


jim brown

 

Jim Brown,

So with your line of thinking, when a shooter's gun doubles during a doubles event then they should be immediately disqualified? You know a gun doubling is an accidental discharge as the shooter did not fire that second shot. You wouldn't happen to be one of the anti-release trigger guys would you? I shot on a squad with a guy who was using a pull trigger break open single shot. When he closed his gun it fired. Seems after his last shot his firing pun broke and stuck out. When he closed the break open it fired. So he should be automatically DQ'd?

 

Jim, because your dealing with holstered guns, speed reloads, probably with chambered rounds, running with weapons etc.... hardly comparable to a flinch on a trap range...

 

"I wonder how many shooters, especially senior vets (like me) think that not taking off the safety, forgetting to put a shell in the gun, or a flinch is a lost target, and you could never convince them otherwise no matter what that dadgummed rule book says. "

Two of us?

 

mike campbell,

That is called a Failure to Fire. You get two per round. It's in the Rule Book. If people would read it there would be nobody that believed it was a lost target. Now after your two allowed per round you go it again, it is then a lost target. Regardless of what people like or believe, rules are rules and are meant to follow.

 

Grntitan, IPSIC has an exception to the AD disqualification if the gun malfunctions. The malfunction must be varified by the RO.

No, I'm not an anti release guy. Shot one for years, got tired of the hassle and went back to a pull.

I am not taking a position on this, just asking what you think. I do think that any accidental firing of a firearm is a serious and dangerous situation. It has happened to me both as malfunction and as my own stupidity. Scared hell out of me and makes me thankful it has always turned out as well as it has.


jim brown

 

As a release guy, I dislike pull triggers. Everytime I set the trigger they go off! (Grin)

 

I have seen far to many release triggers pull through and surprise the living hell out of everyone, especially the guy holding the gun ... You can usually tell if the shooter has not called for a target and his gun goes off ... Could be dangerous under some circumstances but harmless (usually) if the gun is pointed down range ... I do not shoot a release and would have to tough it out somehow if it ever came to that ... I have tried them and do not like them even a little bit, seems unnatural to me ... I have an assortment of release triggers just in case someone needs to borrow a gun, but I do not use them ... There are people I will not squad with because they seem to always have trouble with the trigger in their guns, usually a release trigger ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

I had a few...not on the range though...think thats why my wife divorced me

 

"That is called a Failure to Fire. You get two per round. It's in the Rule Book. If people would read it there would be nobody that believed it was a lost target. Now after your two allowed per round you go it again, it is then a lost target. Regardless of what people like or believe, rules are rules and are meant to follow."

I've read the rule book.

Forgetting to take the safety off, forgetting to load the gun, flinching or otherwise failing to shoot at a legal target properly called for is a brain fart. The Rule Book may allow two Brain Farts but I don't allow myself any. When it happens to me, I wonder how the referee will respond when I turn and say "lost target, next shooter" ?