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I have been shooting Kemen shells for two years know and love them to death. Has anybody used the Dianas or Rios? We bought ten cases of Dianas and cut a shell apart and they are the exact same wad as a Kemen. From my research I believe that Rio, Diana, and Kemen are all made in the same factory. I have also heard that Rio's use a softer shot that Kemen. Any insight would be much appreciated.


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SAGA was the parent company of Diana, a few years back they fell under the umbrella of UEE (RIO/Kemen) and are all the basically the same shell today. Kemen was always touted as a premium RIO, claiming harder shot, at least those I had------I couldn't tell the difference between a TopTrap RIO and a Kemen Sporting.

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Travis, Your research is correct. I have been shooting the Rio's now for almost 2 years. I love them, and they are great for 16 yard shooting. They are only 3% antimony, and the Kemans you are using are 5% antimony. Makes now difference at 16 yards. I shot close handicap @ 21 yards and they are fine there as well. I think that at about 24 or 25 I might think about using a 5% antimony lead shell. But The first round of 27's (pratice)I ever shot I went strait using a one oz. load of 7 and one/half RIO'S. The gentleman who runs the trap shoots out of our club sells Keman's on the side. I have bought and tried those as well. Work just as good, sometimes I think the breaks look a little better with them, but no difference in averages. So I still use the Rio's about 3 dollars less a flat around here.Never tried the Diana's Break-em all. Jeff
 

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I forgot to mention that Rio's Top Trap is a green hull and is also 5% antimony. I'm not sure about the sporting clay loads in Keman. Probably 5% antimony as well.The 3% Rio's are the blue hulls. Keman's green hull is a little differt shade than Rio's top trap color. Jeff
 

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Someone mentioned that Remingtons Gun Clubs are now being made my Rio and coming with a 6 crimp hull. I just bought 10 flats of Gun Clubs and they are still an 8 crimp. Any truth to this?
 
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