I have shot a bunch of these in the past and they are fine. Buy them to save money, not to save on recoil as others have said. I used to buy them by the case at the end of the year when Wal-Mart would mark them down. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened in a long time in my neck of the woods. As far as promotional loads go, they are one of the better ones for value and performance. The older ones used to use 8 point crimps. We can thank Remington for thinking of us reloaders again NOT.