[senior smoke]

Hello:
Recently, I had a thread on here mentioning that I purchased a used 870 field grade 870 with a 28" field grade choke tube barrel on it.

I stated that I never had a choke tube barrel before and I was anxious to pattern the tubes and shoot a few rounds of singles and 24 yard handicap with this barrel.

The barrel came with Rem chokes, included were a Full, mod, and imp cyl choke tubes. When I patterned this barrel the Mod tube from 40 yards patterned 20% above my line of sight that I was shooting at, and 80% below my line of sight.

The full choke tube patterned at the same distance patterned 30% above the line of sight and 70% below.

Let me first say that I am not a hunter as I am not familar with field barrels or choke tubes. Regardless, how can any one person shoot at any type of target with choke tubes that shoot below the line of site?

I took my 870 tb out and tried both tubes on a 16 yard practice round and I had to shoot well above the target to hit them. The full choke tube made smoke balls but I could never shoot like that.

I than purchased a Carlson .700 full choke tube and when I patterned it from 40 yards the Remington field barrel shot pattern was dead center and the entire pattern was above my line of sight, and no shot patterned below my line of sight.

I then shot a 16 yard practice round and ink balled targets with my front bead touching the bottom of the target. Now, I will be the first to admit that I don't know much about choke tubes. My patterning was done with a rest, and this patterning session was quickly done and far from being scientific.

Here are my questions, does Remington's field grade barrels have different choke tubes than their trap barrels? Also, how does Remington expect anyone to hit what they are shooting at if their field barrel choke tubes shoot below the line of sight?

I have been a big fan of Remington shotguns and products over the years, but the choke tubes from this field barrel forced me to purchase another brand choke tube.

What do you think?
Steve Balistreri
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin

 

[BigM-Perazzi]

If I read it correctly, the remington chokes would have to be eccentric to do that.

stick with the Carlsons...

 

[tburrey]

Steve, I purchased a 1100 Classic a few years ago. Shot it on singles targets and was very disappointed. I put the shot on paper at 40 yds. and my POI was 30/70 with Remington chokes. Needless to say I was not happy. Sent the gun to Remington and they sent it back and told me the gun shot within there specs. Two weeks later I traded the gun on a Model 12 started breaking targets again and never looked back. My 2 cents. Tom

 

[senior smoke]

Tom:
In all my years of trapshooting I had one fixed choke trap barrel that shot below the line of sight. Had to bend the barrel up on that one.

I never heard a good thing about Rem chokes over the years. I do not want to judge to quickly on them as maybe I just ran into a bad batch? I can't explain it.

This carlson's choke tube paterns nice.
Steve

 

[2500 HD]

Carlsons are great stick with them. I had the same problem with my 1100 carlsons fixed my patterns back to center and full of shot pellets.

 

[Kemper]

Tom did you tell the guy

 

[SARGE75X]

With Remingtons what you want is the step rib 1187, the bore is bigger and for me it patterns 70/30 which is what I always liked. Field Remingtons always had to black out the target. I had a 1100 28 ga that shot so low I sold it the same day I bought it, sure was pretty though

 

[senior smoke]

I can see Field grade barrels shooting 50/50, but below point of aim makes me scratch my head?
Steve