I bought three, two wingmasters and an Express in the first two years of production. I won't go into detail why three but I really wanted one and was trying to get just one that would operate correctly. Point being, all weighed more than my 12ga's with the express weighing as much as my 1100TB's.The problem is they are SUPER heavy for a 16ga. My suspicion is that Remington made the barrel the same OD as the 12ga so they could use some 12ga parts in the mfg. They are nothing like the 16ga wingmasters from the 60s and 70s.