I purchased a used 870 classic trap in excellent condition the other night just because I thought it was really nice. I used to own a 1100 classic trap and hated how it shot over all. I realize the 870 has the same barrel etc. but overall the 870 seemed to handle alot better. I was really impressed with it for the price. I bought it for my son to use in the near future. A couple guys use them at the club and I always hated shooting with pump or semi guys but now I see why they use the 870. I started slow 1/5 with it but then broke 19/20 when I figured out the POI. Kudos for the 870, however it won't see much action because I am still teaching the k80 to break targets.