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Obama has selected as Attny.General,ERIC HOLDER----Deputy Attny.under Janet Reno

"The Second Amendment DOES NOT protect firearm posession or use that is unrelated to participation in a Well-Regulated Milita"-Eric Holder

Pray for America


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Civil War II draws nearer....
 

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David Kopel's comments on the Volokh Conspiracy blog, from which I quote:
"At the oral argument before the Fifth Circuit in United States v. Emerson, the Assistant U.S. Attorney (Eric Holder) told the panel that the Second Amendment was no barrier to gun confiscation, not even of the confiscation of guns from on-duty National Guardsmen."
 

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What did you expect??!! Obama will put in as many gun hating socialist as he can. Only the liberal FOOLS on here would think otherwise!!!!
 

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With our economy and employment situations being what they are I hope these characters know what the priorities should be!!!!!!! And it ain't firearms!
 

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"The Second Amendment DOES NOT protect firearm posession or use that is unrelated to participation in a Well-Regulated Milita"-Eric Holder

SO WHAT? As long as it doesn't effect my trap gun, what difference does it make if they want to ban my "nasty black rifle" or the mag in my 15 shot semi auto pistol?

You guys don't NEED those kind of guns. All those rifles and hi-cap mags are made for is killing people. I don't care what they do as long as they don't try and ban something I own.

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That about covers how the liberal sheep we have left on this site feel about OUR 2nd Amendment rights.

If we, the ones that fight for those rights are lucky enough to defeat the bans that are going to come up for a vote, you don't have to thank us. Just be on your way. Don't even THINK about saying thank you. I for one would just throw it back in your faces.

With all the gun grabbers YOU liberal sheep put in office, it IS going to take luck, along with a LOT of hard work by the rest of us.

God, how you sheep would cry and moan if it was something you cared about. Since it is a right that you feel you don't need, you don't give a rats ass. So be it.

You liberal sheep are about a SORRY bunch.

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Just as the DC ruleing stated (you had the right to keep a firearm in your home for protection)did not say anything about taking it out of your home for hunting,target shooting,etc...........
 

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If you think the Clintonistas are bad, have you heard some of the crazies who are left of lenin? They areb complainingn that Obama has sold out their left-wing revolution.
 

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Well as usual Chuky Boy doesn't get it! Yes the Supreme court DID say that(by a narrow margin), but if Obama gets to appoint liberal Justices it CAN be reversed very easily. Is ANYBODY really stupid enough to beleive Obama doesn't want to ban as many guns as possible!??? The problem is D.C. has refused to allow ANY semi auto pistols(more legal battles) and has tied up registration(which is STILL required) in tons of paper work! Also the so called ASSUALT WEAPONS ban will probably be brought back and the liberal scum on Obama's crew will try and attached MANY more semi autos to it. Liberals are the scum of the earth, and the most dangerous threat to this nation that ever came down the pike and Husien Obama is their poster child!!!!
 

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Speaking of the liberal sheep who don't care about scuttling the Second Amendment, where are they? Looks like they disappeared after the election.<br>
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Well, the chickens are coming home to roost. I hope they have more sense than to make posts whining about getting what they wanted.
 

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[David Kopel, November 20, 2008 at 7:41pm] Trackbacks
Eric Holder on firearms policy:
Earlier this year, Eric Holder--along with Janet Reno and several other former officials from the Clinton Department of Justice--co-signed an amicus brief in District of Columbia v. Heller. The brief was filed in support of DC's ban on all handguns, and ban on the use of any firearm for self-defense in the home. The brief argued that the Second Amendment is a "collective" right, not an individual one, and asserted that belief in the collective right had been the consistent policy of the U.S. Department of Justice since the FDR administration. A brief filed by some other former DOJ officials (including several Attorneys General, and Stuart Gerson, who was Acting Attorney General until Janet Reno was confirmed)took issue with the Reno-Holder brief's characterization of DOJ's viewpoint.

But at the least, the Reno-Holder brief accurately expressed the position of the Department of Justice when Janet Reno was Attorney General and Eric Holder was Deputy Attorney General. At the oral argument before the Fifth Circuit in United States v. Emerson, the Assistant U.S. Attorney told the panel that the Second Amendment was no barrier to gun confiscation, not even of the confiscation of guns from on-duty National Guardsmen.

As Deputy Attorney General, Holder was a strong supporter of restrictive gun control. He advocated federal licensing of handgun owners, a three day waiting period on handgun sales, rationing handgun sales to no more than one per month, banning possession of handguns and so-called "assault weapons" (cosmetically incorrect guns) by anyone under age of 21, a gun show restriction bill that would have given the federal government the power to shut down all gun shows, national gun registration, and mandatory prison sentences for trivial offenses (e.g., giving your son an heirloom handgun for Christmas, if he were two weeks shy of his 21st birthday). He also promoted the factoid that "Every day that goes by, about 12, 13 more children in this country die from gun violence"--a statistic is true only if one counts 18-year-old gangsters who shoot each other as "children."(Sources: Holder testimony before House Judiciary Committee, Subcommitee on Crime, May 27,1999; Holder Weekly Briefing, May 20, 2000. One of the bills that Holder endorsed is detailed in my 1999 Issue Paper "Unfair and Unconstitutional.")

After 9/11, he penned a Washington Post op-ed, "Keeping Guns Away From Terrorists" arguing that a new law should give "the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms a record of every firearm sale." He also stated that prospective gun buyers should be checked against the secret "watch lists" compiled by various government entities. (In an Issue Paper on the watch list proposal, I quote a FBI spokesman stating that there is no cause to deny gun ownership to someone simply because she is on the FBI list.)

After the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the D.C. handgun ban and self-defense ban were unconstitutional in 2007, Holder complained that the decision "opens the door to more people having more access to guns and putting guns on the streets."

Holder played a key role in the gunpoint, night-time kidnapping of Elian Gonzalez. The pretext for the paramilitary invasion of the six-year-old's home was that someone in his family might have been licensed to carry a handgun under Florida law. Although a Pulitzer Prize-winning photo showed a federal agent dressed like a soldier and pointing a machine gun at the man who was holding the terrified child, Holder claimed that Gonzalez "was not taken at the point of a gun" and that the federal agents whom Holder had sent to capture Gonzalez had acted "very sensitively." If Mr. Holder believes that breaking down a door with a battering ram, pointing guns at children (not just Elian), and yelling "Get down, get down, we'll shoot" is example of acting "very sensitively," his judgment about the responsible use of firearms is not as acute as would be desirable for a cabinet officer who would be in charge of thousands and thousands of armed federal agents, many of them paramilitary agents with machine guns.
 

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That was on the outside.

What was even uglier were her politics and her total disregard for our 2nd Amendment rights.

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